Wednesday, April 06, 2005

Rabbi Mordechai Tendler wouldn't cooperate with RCA investigation,now lawyer Danny Boy demands info from RCA,what a loon,won't answer our questions

46 Comments:

At 1:17 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

see: http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=10741

 
At 3:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the end the truth may sting like a bee.

Let's hope that the truth ( whatever it is ) prevails.

Emes should conquer sheker.

 
At 3:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jewish Press attacks RCA in their editorial, what a bunch of idiots!
read newhempsteadnews.blogspot.com and weep!

 
At 3:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, yes. That most trustworthy of blogs. Unsubstantiated rants and raves from a frustrated schemer. No proof. No comments allowed. Just pure, unadulterated propoganda and slant. Vicious too.

 
At 3:58 PM, Anonymous Truth said...

Read it and weep? newhempsteadnews.com can't seem to take it that the Jewish Press looked at the facts. According to many rabbis, the most public of which is Rav Dovid Feinstein, the RCA did not follow halacha. The entire blog of newhempsteadnews is really quite comical as you can actually almost hear the person shrieking his/her wild accusations. Kind of a shame. The blog utterly lacks credibility in that "evidence" that it has alleged has never materialized, "facts and events" it reported on never occurred, and the whim of its writer is the "truth" here and now. Sad, very sad. Well, at least no one takes it seriously.

 
At 4:48 PM, Anonymous Enough Already said...

Let's declare a moratorium on these nasty, prurient blogs. Let's just resolve not to check them out, not to favor their idiot editors with responses and comments and arguments and all the rest. Please, bloggers like these are bringing sxual politics in the Jewish community to the point where all our communication energy will be devoted to throwing accusations at one another, shaming one another, "exposing" one another, pointing fingers at one another. Enough, please, enough. Go away and don't look back, please.

 
At 5:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To "Enough Already" It cannot be enough until MT resigns ... what heartless bastard u have to be ... to know there victims out there and you scream enough already!!
How many people are going to puke if they hear "Danny Boy" daven!
Knowing full well that he is protecting a sexual devient and has no feelings for his poor victims

 
At 5:44 PM, Anonymous enough already said...

Anonymous ranted:
>>How many people are going to puke if they hear "Danny Boy" daven!
Knowing full well that he is protecting a sexual devient and has no feelings for his poor victims

So, at this point we're expanding the parameter of attack: it's the alleged pervert, the pervert's lawyer (the davening deviant), and who else? The judge who wouldn't hang him? The wife who won't divorce him? The friends who wouldn't shun him?

This is so the hour of the witch, that the vast majority of Jews are more likely to puke because of you and your mad entries than any other reason.

And so I repeat my plea to everyone who comes here: Go away, Go away, Gay avek, schnell, or you'll end up presuming there's even an ounce of validity in here. Go away and don't come back.

Thank you very much. I'll be here to clean up tomorrow.

 
At 5:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To "Enough Already" this is the same chant that the goyim tell Holocaust survivors. Will you say enough already when some MT Victim commits suicide??
We have an obligation to continue the pressure on MT, his family, and the big bafoon who calls himself Dan "kool aid" Schwartz

 
At 5:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"At 4:48 PM, Enough Already said...
Let's declare a moratorium on these nasty, prurient blogs. Let's just resolve not to check them out, not to favor their idiot editors with responses and comments and arguments and all the rest. Please, bloggers like these are bringing sxual politics in the Jewish community to the point where all our communication energy will be devoted to throwing accusations at one another, shaming one another, "exposing" one another, pointing fingers at one another. Enough, please, enough. Go away and don't look back, please."

Never.

This is not merely about "sexual politics", as you'd like to label. It's about exposing these men who abuse their positions of power and spiritual authority, which is an issue that should be concerning you.

 
At 5:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave Dan alone, he knows nothing of the history of KNH and when he finds out, he will leave and run like all previous MT Lawyers!

 
At 5:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan has no idea what he got himself into, I suggest he speak to MT's original lawyer, who after finding out who MT really is ... quit sold his house for nothing and got the hell out of New Hempstead!

 
At 6:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just to let everybody know: There are a group of former KNHers that are writing a book on the Tendler saga, they will start a new blog, and are asking for anybody that has any info on MT going all the way back before he was married! There is now juicy info about "young" MT that will explain everything! Understand that the title of book "How One Orthodox Rabbi destroyed 18 lives"

 
At 6:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oiy Vey for Klall Yisroel if any of these assertions are true.

 
At 6:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

they alread started the blog:
MordechaTendlerInfo.blogspot.com!

 
At 6:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this book comes out I am leaving the neighborhood! How am I going to marry off my children when the time comes? This is lunacy! Any other Rabbi would have left for the good of the community!!

 
At 6:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Michelle concocted this whole scenerio so that people will sell their houses and she in turn would be the broker for selling and then the Broker for the buyers!
Brilliant Michelle! I wouldn't put this past her!

 
At 6:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

here's some blogspots for you:

getalife.blogspot.com
stopthewithchhunt.blogspot.com

 
At 6:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"At 6:16 PM, Anonymous said...
they alread started the blog:
MordechaTendlerInfo.blogspot.com!"


----No such URL, but good idea....

 
At 6:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard thru the grapevine but still need confirmation that the KNH board met Tuesday Night on Mariner Way and interviewed a Rabbinical Candidate for KNH! If this is true, all would be forgiven and we could all heal already! This would be a real Kiddush Hashem!

 
At 6:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the blogg is MordechaiTendlerInfo.blogspot.com

 
At 6:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No! The blogg address is tendlerinfo.blogspot.com

 
At 6:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys are sick, sick, sick!!!

 
At 6:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard that Tendler bought Danny Boy a shovel so that he cAN SHOVIL HIS ----! Poor Poor Dan Go back to your old neighborhood and be their Chazan we dont need you here!

 
At 6:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are plans to disturb the "leining" this Shabbos and publically announce that Tendler is a Person non Grata in the Shul from now on.. There will be people in all sections of the shul, if they throw one out ,the other will then begin a chant! and so on!Two rabbonim have paskened that this is a Mitzvah to do!

 
At 6:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cops are gonna be there.

 
At 7:23 PM, Anonymous Truth Will Win said...

""Anonymous said...

"""There are plans to disturb the "leining" this Shabbos and publically announce that Tendler is a Person non Grata in the Shul from now on.. There will be people in all sections of the shul, if they throw one out ,the other will then begin a chant! and so on!Two rabbonim have paskened that this is a Mitzvah to do!""

hahahahahahahaha! that is really funny. I recall similar plans being talked about on this blog for similar behavior at the KNH membership meeting. Hahaha!

""Two rabbonim have paskened that this is a Mitzvah to do!""

Those purported "two rabbanim" are probably the same purported "two rabbonim" who have the purported "DNA evidence", but are "keeping it secret". Hahaha! Some posters are getting quite desperate in their attempts to "prove" the "unprovable". It's a pity that they keep using "Anonymous" to post. That way we can't instantly dismiss their posts, we actually have to read what they write, realize who it is from, and THEN dismiss it as a lie. What a waste of time. Oh well.

 
At 3:19 AM, Anonymous Enough Already said...

Just came in to check out the scene, and I'm glad to see that only the meshugener who runs this blog and maybe two other meshugeners have been conversing back and forth. That's very good.

TO EVERYONE ELSE: PLEASE TURN AWAY. THIS IS A BAD AND DANGEROUS PLACE where the presumtion of innocense is dead, where Jews stab their rabbis and where pimple faced morons are spending their empty youth.

TURN AROUND AND LEAVE. YOU WON'T FIND DECENT PEOPLE HERE. GO, GO, ERASE THE URL FROM YOUR BOOKMARK. SHALOM, AND MAY GOD TURN YOU TO HAPPIER, NICER WEBSITES.

 
At 4:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just deleted this from my favorite places.

Time to move on.

Emes should triumph over Sheker.

The truth will eventually come out.

Better to learn daf yomi than to visit this site.

Enough is enough.

 
At 4:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just deleted this from my favorite places.

Time to move on.

Emes should triumph over Sheker.

The truth will eventually come out.

Better to learn daf yomi than to visit this site.

Enough is enough.

 
At 5:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To "enough already" you sound like Dan Rather before his fall!

 
At 7:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"....and where pimple faced morons are spending their empty youth."

---------What is Yanovers' obsession with pimples? Was he molested by a dermatologist in his youth?

" GO, GO, ERASE THE URL FROM YOUR BOOKMARK. SHALOM, AND MAY GOD TURN YOU TO HAPPIER, NICER WEBSITES."

---------- Oh, such as your pals' website for scamming people into financially supporting his 'teachings', until he can personally indoctrinate them into his BDSM-Kabbalah?

 
At 9:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Just came in to check out the scene, and I'm glad to see that only the meshugener who runs this blog and maybe two other meshugeners have been conversing back and forth. That's very good."

I completely agree, but you must also realize that these people (JWB and his enablers) salivate by you posting even these types of comments. Stay off completely, don't post anything. Period. JWB, newhempsteadnews, and jewishidea have only provided lies and half truths to satisfy their own needs. No proof of anything to date, no DNA, etc. etc. etc. The only thing you will find is speculation, unsubstatiated accusations, and lies.

 
At 10:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anonymous who posted at 9:43 and said "No proof of anything to date, no DNA, etc. etc. etc."
I ask: If your daughter or wife was asked to lift up her skirt by the MT, would you post her name on the internet???
Or would discreetly go to Rabbonim?

 
At 11:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

where there's smoke there's fire!
these women would be accusing everyone not just mt. why was he singled ou?obviously because he is guilty.

 
At 11:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Message to Tendler supporters: Do you REALLY want the DNA evidence to be made public? Do you REALLY want the women to come forward with their stories in all the details? Perhaps it is a rachamim to all concerned that some people are holding back with details.

 
At 11:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Message to Tendler supporters: Do you REALLY want the DNA evidence to be made public? Do you REALLY want the women to come forward with their stories in all the details? Perhaps it is a rachamim to all concerned that some people are holding back with details."

Nice try, but it won't fly. These women can make the allegations, but when you ask for proof, "Oh, well THAT would be too much to hear. They should just keep quiet with the proof, and its "a rachamim". Why? what will happen? it might embarass someone? You haven't been concerned about that till now. who? Rabbi Tendler? his family? You people made the statements, and now when people are asking for proof, you can't prove it. This would acquit him. I will state this clearly so no one will misunderstand:
THEY ARE LYING. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. That is why they can't "release" it. It ISN'T THERE! The RCA can't even articulate what evidence they saw to convict him. Just wait and see what happens. See who can end up proving what.

 
At 12:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO Anonymous who keeps saying "there is no evidence"
If there is no evidence why do you keep reading the Bloggs ...?
The evidence is out there, and will come out for all to see! The one's we are protecting are the victims we are not trying to protect the Sexual Devient and his family ... His family should have dumped the BUM years ago, they know the truth!

 
At 3:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If there is no evidence why do you keep reading the Bloggs ...?
The evidence is out there, and will come out for all to see!"
Seems to me that the evidence should have come out by now. It hasn't, because there is none.
The RCA is going to have to prove how and why it said that "Rabbi Tendler is guilty of engaging in conduct inappropriate for an Orthodox Rabbi" to a beis din. So says a psak sent to the RCA from the Chief Rabbinate of Jerusalem. Then it will be clearly established what evidence IS there and what evidence is NOT there.

"His family should have dumped the BUM years ago, they know the truth!"

Excuse me for asking, but which part of his family are you referring to? Do you mean the Feinstein side, which has publicly supported him through Rav Dovid's speech and Rav Reuven's letter, or do you mean the Tendler side, which has publicly supported him through Rabbi Moshe Tendler's speech, or do you mean the Joffen side, which has publicly supported him through Rabbi Joffen's speech. Or perhaps you are referring to the family members that attended the KNH meeting in support but who didn't speak, rather traveling from from their homes to show solidarity and support. Which side of the family "knows the "Truth" and should have "dumped him years ago"? I really don't expect any answer from you, i just want to point out once again that people seem to have no qualms about stating unsubstantiated statements, and outright lies, as facts.

 
At 1:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

what is called for, unfortunately is for it to all come out in court...believe me, there is a lot to come out if only Tendler would just sue the vicims, their advocates or the RCA...all the testimony and evidence would be made public, and the huge settlement gag order on one of the victims would be released. it is ashame to have to come to this.

 
At 2:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

" what is called for, unfortunately is for it to all come out in court.believe me, there is a lot to come out if only Tendler would just sue the vicims, their advocates or the RCA.."

he is suing the RCA, in beis din, according to halacha. Hopefully, through this halachic process all the evidence (or lack of it) will come out. You can't sue in secular court without first going through beis din.

"if only Tendler would just sue the vicims, their advocates or the RCA.."
Why do the victims have to wait for RMT to sue THEM? If they are so sure of their claims and evidence, why can't they victims and their advocates sue RMT first? are they afraid of something?

 
At 6:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jacko eyes Danny boy!

By Mel Booth, The Huddersfield Daily Examiner


AGGRESSIVE defender Danny Adams is training with Town this week.

Released by Stockport County, the 29-year-old left-back is aiming to get fixed up with a club as quickly as possible.

Adams - who played against Town at Edgeley Park in the League and FA Cup this season - was taking part in a practice match at Storthes Hall today.

"I thought Danny played well in both matches against us and, as he is now a free agent, I think it's worth taking a closer look at him," said manager Peter Jackson, who was today starting preparations for Friday night's match at Hartlepool.

"He is a player our physio, Lee Martin, knows well from Macclesfield and when I saw Danny's name on the list of released players last week, I immediately took notice.

"At this stage, we are just taking a look at him and he's taking a look at us, nothing more than that."

Jackson reported no activity on the signings front with just two more days to the Football League transfer deadline for this season, although he was holding initial talks with Delroy Facey today about a permanent move from Hull City.

"So far, I've received no follow-ups from the clubs who rang to ask about a couple of our players last week," he explained.

"I've also heard nothing on the inquiries I've made, so we'll have to wait and see what happens over the next couple of days."

Jackson has already stressed that he won't be allowing players out on loan unless he is certain of additions to his own squad first.

Midfielder Danny Schofield (groin) was expected to join in training today while Tony Carss (also groin) was again under treatment.

Joining in today's practice match were skipper Jon Worthington and teenage left-back Tom Clarke, who were both suspended when Town beat Stockport 5-3 on Saturday to move 11 points above the drop zone with eight matches left.

The first of those is at promotion-chasing Hartlepool, where Town have guaranteed backing from over 400 fans and where Lee Fowler will again hope to be involved after his substitute appearance at the Galpharm, although he is on standby this week for the Wales Under 21 squad.

 
At 6:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The lure of 'Danny Boy'

March 17, 2005

BY MIKE THOMAS Staff Reporter




This time of year, without fail, they dye the river green, taverns serve green beer, people wear green clothes, delis sell corned beef, and singers of all ages join in not-so-rousing choruses of that timeless, quintessentially Irish-American tearjerker "Danny Boy."

You know, the death-themed ditty with pipes calling from glen to glen, the summer gone and all the roses falling, etc. A barnburner at wakes, it's an unabashedly mournful dirge that tugs so hard at the heartstrings as to nearly cause a coronary. Yet it wields a wondrous power.

Set to the centuries-old melody "Derry Air," a k a "Londonderry Air,", a ballad supposedly composed by the chief harpist to Baron of Dungannon Hugh O'Neill (plum gig, huh?), it has been assigned more than 100 sets of lyrics over time and sung by the likes of Tom Jones, Bing Crosby and Johnny Cash.

The Irish Tenors cover it in a Rosemont Theatre concert airing at 7:30 tonight on WTTW-Channel 11. They may or may not do the best-known 1910 version by English lawyer and radio personality Frederic Weatherly, but there'll be tears regardless.

"This song has captivated so many people, and it's not just the Irish," said Tom Boyle, an 18-year member and former president of the Irish American Heritage Club. "It's popular across ethnic groups. I don't know what it is about the magic of the song. People love it. You get so many requests for it. And it often makes people cry. You'll see people weeping."

Mark Piekarz, a local tenor, has crooned the tune countless times, most recently in a "Danny Boy" contest at the Fitzpatrick Hotel. Is he tired of it? "I think the attributes of it and the lyrics, they still mean something after singing it so many times," he said. "I guess what I'm sick of are the actual requests and the expectations to do so, because there are so many other good songs."

Rocker Eric Clapton had his say in "Danny Boy: In Sunshine or in Shadow," a 1997 PBS special. "It seems to be the perfect song about grief," the ax god mused. "I think it's both a very Irish song, and I think it works anywhere, in any situation, really. It's one of those things [where] you could be in the middle of a very sophisticated cocktail party or something like that, with masses of very wealthy people. And if someone started singing that song, it would grind everything to a halt."

The proprietors of O'Brien's Restaurant would surely prefer a less funereal atmosphere at their 13th annual "Danny Boy" contest tonight. With a raffle benefitting Mercy Home for Boys and Girls orphanage on West Adams, the annual gathering is open to anyone. Charity gets cash, patrons have fun. Everyone wins. But the guy or gal who belts "Danny Boy" the best wins dinner for four.

Prospective vocalists, start your gargling.



Not quite Irish, but definitely Danny
In the early '90s, I took part in a "Danny Boy" contest.

Sponsored by a Cleveland beer distributor, the contest brought singers to local watering holes, where they crooned "Danny Boy" and one other Irish tune for a panel of judges. Semifinalists met at the West Side Irish American Center for a showdown -- a kind of "Irish-American Idol." First prize was a trip to Boca Raton, Fla. I decided to give it a shot.

I'd sung for much of my short life, but never "Danny Boy." Know this: It ain't easy. Its wide dynamic range falls just outside the vocal comfort zone -- kind of like "The Star Spangled Banner" and much of the Led Zeppelin canon. And it shouldn't be rendered too slowly. Or too quickly. Or too mawkishly.

A college student at the time, I practiced for a couple of weeks and learned the upbeat "Wild Rover," as well. Then came the semifinals.

A few pals in attendance, I had a brew, cleared my throat, got onstage and let it rip. Then I got offstage, cleared my throat, had a brew and waited. Lady Luck must've been grinning, because I made the cut. I, marginally more Gaelic than Omar Sharif, was a "Danny Boy" finalist. Miraculous.

A week or two later, when I arrived very late to the Irish American Center, festivities had already begun. Onstage, a bold female singer performed while sprawled on her back. I made a mental note: no sprawling on back.

When my turn came, so did mild nervousness and pre-flop sweat. Gazing at the expectant throng, who would cheer wildly, applaud tepidly or go all Showtime-at-the-Apollo on me, I breathed deeply and began an a cappella ode to youthful recklessness: "I've played the wild rover for many a year/And I've spent all me money on whiskey and beer/But now I've returned with golden great store/And I never will play the wild rover no more."

Then I settled into the one that really mattered, the one for which I'd traversed Cleveland at well over the legal speed limit: "Danny Boy." Starting out low, sans accompaniment, I managed to hit the money note on "bend" with only minor cerebral hemorrhaging. In my poetically licensed mind's eye, the crowd roared.

I snaked my way to the bar and waited. About 30 minutes later, the judges had determined 1992's "Danny Boy" champ.

What happened next was wholly unexpected -- yours truly, Irish only in my admiration for Harp Lager and Shaquille O'Neal, snagged the trophy, actually more of a double plaque. Think I got a nifty beer stein, too. And, of course, the crown jewel: Florida. Mom and Dad, long overdue for a tropical getaway, were bound shortly for the sunny shores and early dining specials of Boca Raton -- as soon as they filled out the appropriate tax forms. Me, I had a test to study for.

As I drove home that night, eager to break the odd news to friends and family, "Danny Boy" swam ceaselessly through my brain. Thirteen years later it's still there, etched indelibly in gray matter. That's what great songs and Poison ballads do -- latch on forever. And though it's never made me cry, it does make me nostalgic for those thrilling days of yesteryear, for that sentimental song that gave me (well, my parents) so very much. Yes, those were good times. The best.

OK, now I'm getting misty. But only a little.

 
At 6:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

many of the victims do not know one another, but a class action law suit against tendler would be ideal. vick p. at the awarenessness center stated previously that knows a lawyer who would take the case, and that she could organize this.
but such a long ardous process would not be necessary if Tendler would just sue the RCA and the victims and their advocates. If Tendler is innocent what woiuld he have to lose??? The truth and confirmation of his guilt. He knows that if he sues, all the proof will come out in court, proof that has been revealed to rabbis and psycologists and other health care professionals, but kept out of the public arena due to the highly personal subject matter, and the concern for protecting the victims.

 
At 7:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"many of the victims do not know one another, but a class action law suit against tendler would be ideal. vick p. at the awarenessness center stated previously that knows a lawyer who would take the case, and that she could organize this.
but such a long ardous process would not be necessary if Tendler would just sue the RCA and the victims and their advocates. If Tendler is innocent what woiuld he have to lose??? The truth and confirmation of his guilt. He knows that if he sues, all the proof will come out in court, proof that has been revealed to rabbis and psycologists and other health care professionals, but kept out of the public arena due to the highly personal subject matter, and the concern for protecting the victims."

Do you know how stupid that sounds? The defendant must sue in order to do what? Under every legal system involved here, secular and halachic, you are innocent until proven guilty. MT gets slimed even more the more public it becomes even if it 100% false. He is in a no-win situation. Even if the women won't identify themselves, why don't the Rabbis or psychologists identify themselves? Why does everybody in this insist on anonymity unless THEY have something to hide? Why did the RCA decide on expulsion if the report only suggested a 3 month suspension? It certainly appears that the investigator did not deem the "evidence" to be very compelling.

MT has taken this a beis din vis-a-vis the RCA in order to force a beis din process. Then let everything come out. I don't understand why the RCA does not publicize the entire report and just black out the names in order to protect the "victims".

 
At 2:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

DON'T TRUST THIS LAWYER FOR VICTIMS: MICHAEL SMITH. HE'S NOT LICENCED IN NYS

 

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