Friday, April 22, 2005

Jewish Press continues to only report one side of the Rabbi Mordechai Tendler/RCA Conflict: numerous clearly false "facts"

29 Comments:

At 9:55 AM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Latest (not available on-line):

The Jewish Press, Friday, April 22, 2005
The Rabbinical Council of America, stung by widespread criticism of its public rebuff of the Jerusalem Regional Bet Din of the Chief Rabbinate over its vacating an RCA order expelling Rabbi Mordechai Tendler, has dispatched one of the architects of its investigation to Israel to secure a modification of the bet din's ruling.

According to a source close to the Tendler investigation, RCA officiaal Rabbi Yosef Blau, the masgiach ruchani of Yeshiva University, is now in Israel trying to lobbby for the change.

The same source also said that the RCA had decided not to formally appeal the ruling of the bet din and, for now, not to implement the ruling that requires it to convene a formal bet din to consider the charges against Rabbi Tendler.

In its statement last week the RCA characterized the members of the Israeli bet din as Israeli rabbis who either were willfully senying the facts in the Tendler matter or acting out of ignorance. The statement also defended the RCA's expilsion of Rabbbi Tendler, which was in direct violation of the bet din's injunction against the RCA.

The injunction "prohibited [the RCA' from damaging or in any way affecting any services provioded by, or any status or position of the Plaintiff (Rabbi Mordechai Tendler) unless and until the Defendants (the RCA, Rabbis Y. Blau, H. Billet, K. Auman, M. Dratch, Gedalia Schwartz, and Mark Stern, Esq.) summon the Plaintiff to a Din Torah ....."

 
At 10:04 AM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Clear false assertions:

1) Rabbi Blau is not one of the architects of the RMT investigation. He was not involved as RCA officials believed it would be a conflict of interst.

2) The Bet Din in Israel has not issued a psak.

3)
>The statement also defended the
>RCA's expulsion of Rabbbi >Tendler, which was in direct
>violation of the bet din's
>injunction against the RCA.

As we see in the letter of clarificartion issued by the Israeli beis din ( http://www.rabbis.org/news/_pdfs/Hachlatah%202.pdf and why does the Jewish Press not reproduce the clarification?) this was not IN DIRECT VIOLATION of the bet din's injunction against the RCA (which was not a psak anyway).

4)
>In its statement last week the
>RCA characterized the members of
>the Israeli bet din as Israeli
>rabbis who either were willfully
>denying the facts in the Tendler
>matter or acting out of
>ignorance.

Really? That's not how I read it.
See: http://www.rabbis.org/news/article.cfm?id=100587

Actual statement:
"4. Any claims or statements to the contrary, be they from rabbis in America or Israel, legal counsel, publicists, journalists, family members, or others, are based on either willful denial of fact or on ignorance resulting from one-sided representations."

 
At 10:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

PESACH IS COMING!

Three days without Rechilus!!

JWB gonna have withdrawal symptoms!

 
At 10:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually, JWB only has 2 days without rechilus. Still, that is a lot for him!

 
At 10:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JWB claimed (in another thread) that Rabbi Blau totally disassociated himself from any participation in the Tendler matter due to a clear conflict of interest (he is on the board of The Awareness Center with Midwife II).

It looks like JWB lied again. Even if Blau was not part of the original investigation (which I doubt, if only because JWB said it is true), he certainly is deeply involved now. He is currently the primary defender of the RCA's witch-hunt to the Israeli Rabbinate!

I doubt that anyone believes anything JWB posts anymore, since he continues to hide behind his blog, has been caught in lies repeatedly, and deletes posts to hide from his lies.

Note to readers: Now that JWB was caught in another lie, he will probably delete this message, or delete his old messages claiming the Blau totally disassociated himself with the Tendler matter.

 
At 11:04 AM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>JWB claimed (in another thread) \
>that Rabbi Blau totally
>disassociated himself from any \
>participation in the Tendler
>matter due to a clear conflict
>of interest (he is on the board
>of The Awareness Center with
>Midwife II).

I never made such a statement. He was never involved with the investigation from the beginning.

>It looks like JWB lied again.

As usual you make claims which are false.

>Even if Blau was not part of the
>original investigation (which I
>doubt,

Proof please. I know from RCA sources that he wasn't.

>if only because JWB said it is
>true), he certainly is deeply
>involved now.

There is no longer an investigation and RMT has been removed from the RCA, therefore no conflict of interst. His main involvement is being falsely accused by people of being involved in the RMT investigation and expulsion decision. Both are false.

>He is currently the primary
>defender of the RCA's witch-hunt
>to the Israeli Rabbinate!

We can see who you support.

>I doubt that anyone believes
>anything JWB posts anymore,
>since he continues to hide
>behind his blog,

Your real name in anonymous? Why should we believe you?

>has been caught in lies
>repeatedly, and deletes posts to
>hide from his lies.

1) You repeatedly post outright lies and claims you even admit not to have facts about (see above re: Rabbi Blau).

2) You claim I deletge posts tp "hide from his lies". Nonsense, proven by the fact your posts remain.

3)
>Note to readers: Now that JWB
>was caught in another lie, he
>will probably delete this
>message, or delete his old
>messages claiming the Blau
>totally disassociated himself
>with the Tendler matter.

Neither.
1) Your posts remain.
2) No such post about Rabbi Blau "dissassociated" ever existed. He was never involved in the RCA investigation.
3) You are out right lying.

 
At 11:14 AM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

The only reason Rabbi Blau is in any way involved is that he was falsely named by RMT and his followers in formal, written accusations made to the Israeli Bais Din.

Does he not have the right to defend himself against these false accusations?

 
At 1:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Does he not have the right to defend himself against these false accusations?"

If one would behave like Blau's Awareness Center (he is Vice President, and as Viki Polin, the founder, so appropriately described him, "My partner in crime"), no one should be allowed to defend themselves against any false accusations!
Blau wasn't involved? He has his hands all over this.
BTW, Blau was in israel trying to convince the rabbanut to take back their statement against the RCA. According to the RCA's reading of the hebrew document, that worked. For a rabbinic organization, that statement might prove embarassing. Especially if you know hebrew, or you read an actual (correct) translation, you will see that the RCA statement does not fit with the actual statement from the rabbanut. Stay tuned after pesach, when the batei din open up again, for the rest of the story. No sense in commenting now. Just wait and see.

 
At 1:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honestly Folks, the reality is that Vicki Polin, Luke Ford and JWB were asked by the RCA to help them fix the errors that they made with the investigation. They are being paid over a hundred thousand dollars a piece to do this.

The three of them have been sent to Israel to discuss this matter with the Jerusalem Regional Bet Din of the Chief Rabbinate.

Just wait until after Pesach and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 
At 3:13 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>Blau wasn't involved?

Correct.

>He has his hands all over this.

Incorrect.

>BTW, Blau was in israel trying
>to convince the rabbanut to take
>back their statement against the
>RCA.

Rabbi Blau was falsely named in RMT's filings to the Bais Din, so of course he is speaking to them.

>According to the RCA's reading
>of the hebrew document, that
>worked. For a rabbinic
>organization, that statement
>might prove embarassing.
>Especially if you know hebrew,
>or you read an actual (correct)
>translation, you will see that
>the RCA statement does not fit
>with the actual statement from
>the rabbanut.

So? Post your translation here?

I believe my posts on it are accurate. Note what I wrote:

Significant Defeat for the Rabbi Mordechai Tendler "spin machine" as Bet Din Ha-Ezori of Jerusalem clarifies prelimenary opinion (note: not a psak)

I didn't write it was a defeat for RMT. I didn't write it was a complete defeat. It was a significant defeat for RMT's "spin machine" which have made clear false claims to the Beis Din in Israel and spun the Beis Din's statement far beyond what they mean. The clarification issued so far reflects that the RMT "spin machine" is misleading people.

>Stay tuned after pesach, when
>the batei din open up again,
>for the rest of the story.

What, you weren't able to get anything during the past week?

>No sense in commenting now.

Because your lies are falling apart ... however slowly.

>Just wait and see.

Buying time?

 
At 3:20 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>Honestly Folks, the reality is
>that Vicki Polin, Luke Ford and
>JWB were asked by the RCA to
>help them fix the errors that
>they made with the
>investigation.

Absolute nonsense. Only Vicki has expertise in that area and I don't believe the RCA has utilized her in any such capacity although it would have been (and is a good) idea.

>They are being paid over a
>hundred thousand dollars a piece
>to do this.

Really? Why does no one tell me these things? More utter nonsense.

>The three of them have been sent
>to Israel to discuss this matter
>with the Jerusalem Regional Bet
>Din of the Chief Rabbinate.

Now that is funnny.

>Just wait until after Pesach and
>you'll see what I'm talking
>about.

Next Purim is too far off.

 
At 3:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AT one time Rabbi Yosef Blau was a real special person. A great teacher, a talmid chacham, and a role model for his talmidim at Yeshiva University.
Since he was exposed as having allowed Baruch Lanner off the hook when he was a member of the original Bais Din, he has not done what people like Rabbi Willig have done and declared his culpability. No, not the Mashgiach Ruchani.
He has become a "Sexual Abuse in the Jewish Community" exposing machine.
You tell him a story about your situation, how you or your children were victimized by your neighbors or how people were kidnapped and raped in broad daylight in your neighborhood(hypothetically of course)and HE IS THERE!!
He doesn't need proof, he doesn't need the "corrupt" and "incompetent" police or other authorities. They ALWAYS miss things, right?
It takes a Talmudic Giant like Yossi Blau to get to the truth of the matter!
He along with his quasi-courageous and somewhat corpulent cohort, Miss Vicki Polin, are the true investigators! They know how to analyze one side of a story and come up with all the facts!!
He is the Grand Inquisitor!!!
Confess Abuser!!
Confess!!!
Yosef De Blau-qemada and his grand inquisition will uproot the scourge of Sexual Abuse in the Jewish Community, be it real, imagined, contrived, all we need is a sniff of suspicion and under all that we will find who?
THE GUILTY!! And who is guilty?
EVERYONE!! EVERYONE!!
That is except Rabbi Blau. He alleviates his guilt for allowing all those truly innocent girls in Hillel and NCSY to have been molested by Baruch Lanner, by declaring that sexual abuse is rampant wherever there is suspicion!

His involvment with MT may actually be something of substance (how will he deal with something really substantive???).
Oh, Maybe he'll blow his top like he did at the JWI conference in DC a few weeks ago when he was asked about a situation involving minors in a MD community. That would be funny!
The following is a sentiment shared by many of the former YU tamidim who knew him as the "Masgiach ruchani":
He has gone off the deep end and should be held accountable for fomenting hysteria in cases of allegations that are proven to be false.
Ditto Ms. Polin who has tainted her Awareness Center with the stench of her desire for revenge for her unfortunate status of being a victim of abuse.
Make everyone pay!!!

There are serious people out there engaged in seriously combatting and confronting this issue as it truly exists, not as Blau and Polin imagine it exists.

 
At 3:53 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>AT one time Rabbi Yosef Blau was
>a real special person. A great >teacher, a talmid chacham, and a
>role model for his talmidim at
>Yeshiva University.

And still is.

>Since he was exposed as having
>allowed Baruch Lanner off the
>hook when he was a member of the
>original Bais Din,

1) He exposed his own failings in that matter and took responsibility.
2) The finding of the bais din was misrepresented by Lanner's Rabbinical enablers (in particular Rabbi Butler).
3) After the bais din ended, witnesses came forward to admit they were pressured by Lanner's group to give false testiminy.
4) Speak to Lanner's survivors before you comment on the facts of the case. Your "facts" as usual are not accurate.

>he has not
>done what people like Rabbi >Willig have done and declared
>his culpability.

Ridiculous, a complete misrepresentation of the facts.

>No, not the Mashgiach Ruchani.
>He has become a "Sexual Abuse in
>the Jewish Community" exposing
>machine.

Unlike others, he has basically done teshuva plus.

The rest of your crazy diatribe is not even worth commenting on.

Basically, you don't like him because you're involved in a case where he is assisting the other side, the victims.

Whereas you have chosen to post a website that names your own relatives, minor children who were accused of sexually abusing other children and animals.

Any sane person or family member would protect their children relatives and get them counselling (regardless of the varacity of the allegations). You however have turned the sad situation into a 3 ring circus by publishing their names on a website.

Whether I believe or disbelieve the allegations involved is irrelevant, it is incomprehendable to me that any sane, rational caring relative would do this despicable thing to minor children, posting their names in public places with the allegations that have been made.

Please go elsewhere with your insanity, stop posting your links here. I will have no posting on this situation from EITHER side. These are allegations involving children who are related to you. You're posting their names on the internet?

What kind of low-life are you?

 
At 6:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You would have to address that question to the people who are responsible for posting the information on the website in question.This anonymous poster is not one of those people.

 
At 6:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Relative?? There are many people involved in that particular case that support those who have been forced into filing the suit. Many, many, many people.

 
At 9:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

we have all been taken for fools...both by the Tendlers and by the anti-RMTs...both have lied to us all from the beginning for their own motivations and, yes, PROFIT...and we have permitted them both to lead us along....now both the RCA and the rabbis in Israel have let us know that everyone has lied from the outset, and we continue to blindly follow one camp or the other

ten plagues on both of them for what they have BOTH done to us here

 
At 10:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yom tov is over - let the Lashon Hara begin!

 
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At 10:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Luke Ford (www.lukeford.net) published a letter today from the only actual accuser of RMT to date, WITH NAME VOLUNTARILY INCLUDED. So much for JWB's contention that anonymity served a purpose. It's only purpose was to permit multiplication of rumors into "thruths" and represent that "12 women" had problems when only one actually came forth.

Given what she says in her letter, the RCA and Israel Beis Din are completely correct.

And clearly, BOTH SIDES HAVE LIED COMPLETELY HERE to further their own particular gain.

JWB, once again you have been unmasked for the complete fraud that you are-- there was never a need to hide identities of the accuser, save to create a suggestion that there were many others. And it appears the Holy Rabbi was in a voluntarily adulterous affair.

Ten plagues on both of your houses.

 
At 12:05 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>Luke Ford (www.lukeford.net)
>published a letter today from
>the only actual accuser of RMT
>to date, WITH NAME VOLUNTARILY
>INCLUDED.

1) Published several days ago.
2) Not her current name.

>So much for JWB's contention
>that anonymity served a purpose.

See above, not her current name.

>It's only purpose was to permit
>multiplication of rumors
>into "thruths" and represent
>that "12 women" had problems
>when only one actually came
>forth.

Nine women came forward in the RCA/Praesidium report. That includes a 15 year-old girl and numerous agunot.

>Given what she says in her
>letter, the RCA and Israel Beis
>Din are completely correct.

Partially right.

>And clearly, BOTH SIDES HAVE
>LIED COMPLETELY HERE to further
>their own particular gain.

True of the RMT side.

>JWB, once again you have been
>unmasked for the complete fraud
>that you are-- there was never a
>need to hide identities of the
>accuser, save to create a
>suggestion that there were many
>others.

Again, nine alleged victims came forward in the RCA/Praesidium investigation.

>And it appears the Holy Rabbi
>was in a voluntarily adulterous
>affair.

The letter indicates the opposite. He was pressuring a women, at the time she was:
1)an agunah,
2)financially vulnerable
3)being counselled through the process of getting a get by RMT.
to have sex with him. She had to cautiously put off those advances as she feared he could torpedo her impending get.

>Ten plagues on both of your
>houses.

Whatever.

You clearly have no concept of the truth.

 
At 8:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

a JOKE FOR CHOL HAMOED:

tendler to board: all those that agree with me say "yes"... ok, good.
Now, all those who disagree say "I resign".

gutten moed folks!

 
At 10:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You clearly have no concept of the truth"-JWB

This whole blogging thing is so ridiculous. JWB can claim whatever
he/she/it wants as the truth with the same veracity as anyone who posts.
And...since JWB is ALSO hiding in anonymity behind the "JWB" handle-he/she/it does not have to reveal how what JWB says is any more truthful than what anyone else has to post.
So, in the eyes of each person posting an opinion they consider truth, none of us have any concept of the THE truth since no one cares to name sources or do anything to increase the credibility of their version of the truth, including me.
And as for the criticism that JWB throws around to those who choose to remain anonymous...how is
"JWB" any better?

 
At 1:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

a JOKE FOR CHOL HAMOED:

tendler to board: all those that agree with me say "yes"... ok, good.
Now, all those who disagree say "I resign".

gutten moed folks!

 
At 5:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

a better JOKE FOR CHOL HAMOED:

midwives to expectant mother: you want us to deliver your baby in your home? then lie about Tendler for us... ok, good.
Now, all those who disagree say "OBGYN".

gutten moed folks!

 
At 7:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For your information, No one is perfect! As a member of the community I find it disturbing that two women had to perform the function that the Rabbis of Monsey should have done.
Most members of the Community as well as myself respect what they did. They did what the Rabbis refused to do. Or denied existed.
I want to THANK THEM from the bottom of my heart.

 
At 8:45 AM, Anonymous Chani said...

"They did what the Rabbis refused to do."

The Rabbis refused to do it, after interviewing the accusers and reviewing all the evidence and defense. What have you reviewed before you came to your conclusion that RMT is guilty?

RMT was found innocent by 3 consecutive batei din. The first one had 3 Rabbonim, the second had 15 Rabbonim and the third had 3 Rabbonim - all of which are distinguished poskim. Those 21 poskim heard the evidence from both sides and concluded that RMT was 100% innocent.

In American law, when a person is accused of wrongdoing, they can only be tried once. In this case, the accusers (actually, their handlers, the infamous duo) consistently lost dinei Torah and then just ran to another bais din to force RMT to defend himself over and over again. Clearly, they were just going to keep trying and trying until they found some bais din that was inept enough to agree with them.

 
At 6:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No he wasn't found innocent by three b"d etc.THIS IS
TYPICAL TENDLER DRIVEL AND LIES- HARDLY A TRUE WORD IN IT! A FEW EXAMPLES:

A. the last only heard what tendler's people told them they investigated nothing.
B. They also in no way found him even 1% innocent let alone 100%!!! They only expressed their (irrelevent) opinion as to how the procedure should be conducted!
C. None of the rest is true either, but who has time to discuss the plethora of tendler lies...

 
At 9:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do Chani Margolis and Leah Marinelli have to say about homebirth when there are known complications (placenta previa, breech, etc)?

I think that it is crazy to deliver babies in non-sterile conditions outside of a medical facility (in case of complications).

 
At 1:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What do Chani Margolis and Leah Marinelli have to say about homebirth when there are known complications (placenta previa, breech, etc)?

I think that it is crazy to deliver babies in non-sterile conditions outside of a medical facility (in case of complications).

9:06 AM "

HERE WE HAVE A PERFECT EX. THE TENDLER METHOD: DISCREDIT AND ATTACK ALL CRITICS. RELEVENCE IS IRRELEVENT, JUST ATTACK AND CHANGE THE ISSUE... WHAT A SICK, DANGEROUS AND EVIL MAN!

 

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