Monday, March 28, 2005

New summary of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler investigation by the RCA/Praesidium (the parts I can make public at this time)

65 Comments:

At 7:51 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

A non Jewish cleaning woman who had worked for one of the alleged survivors of Rabbi Mordecai Tendler told several community members, that Rabbi Tendler was having an affair with her employer. The cleaning woman eventually told Jane Hickerson (the investigator hired by the RCA), and various newspaper journalists of these facts.

When the Rabbinical Counsel of America (RCA) began their investigation, they informed Rabbi Tendler of their rules. Mordecai Tendler was told specifically that he was not allowed to contact or intimidate any of the witnesses or alleged survivors in this case.

Recently, the RCA attempted to interview the (non-Jewish) cleaning woman in person. At that time they discovered that Rabbi Mordecai Tendler or his supporters had committed witness tampering. They contacted the cleaning woman, brought her to a bais din of four rabbis on January 4th 2005. She was under the impression that this meeting was being conducted by the RCA.

We have a tape of the cleaning woman stating she was brought to a court meeting, with rabbis and that Rabbi Tendler was present on that date. The RCA empahatically states that the meeting did not involve the RCA at all. Since that meeting the cleaning woman has somehow been pressured into retracting her entire story, saying:“it was not this rabbi, it was another rabbi”.

Tendler supporters are claiming that the RCA case was based entirely on this woman’s testimony, which is completely untrue. The RCA could not use her testimony since she was tampered with.

It has been reported that Rabbi Mordecai Tendler also contacted and intimated other survivors whose names were on the investigator’s report, causing several of them to be too frightened to come forward with their stories and evidence.

The survivors who’s cleaning woman was tampered with previously admitted to many community members explicit details of her entire relationship with Rabbi Tendler before the out of court settlement was signed.

According to the accounts of those she trusted this survivor originally went to Rabbi Tendler seeking religious instruction and spritual counseling for some personal and marriage problems. Tendler was more then willing to offered to learn with her, and offered her his personal counsel for all of her problems.

At some point during the sessions, he moved close to her and kissed her. This eventually this led to a passionate sexual contact between them. Remember he was a rabbi who was helping her with personal problems. The survivor disclosed many explicit sexual details prior to signing the settlement papers.

Amongst the survivors disclosures are also claims that she went away with Rabbi Tendler to Boston, they also would perform sexual acts in the park, in his study on a sheet he placed on the floor, etc.

The Survivor stated that she had witnessed details of his bedroom, of “Tendler’s naked body” and that he told her that he” liked sex better when she was in niddah”, and that he was “going to leave his wife and marry her”.

When this survivor discovered from close friends that he had been having sexual relations with or trying to have sexual relations with other women, she was devastated.
She ended up being hospitalized. The affair ended, and she and her husband prepared to file a suit against the rabbi for taking advantage of her when she was in a vulnerable state.

Before the threat of the lawsuit, many rabbis heard the taped conversations between Tendler and this woman. Tendler also left voice messages for this victim on her best friend’s answering machine so the victim’s husband would not know they he was scheduling secret meetings. He also said that he loved her.

Because of the evidence, there was then a large settlement paid (over of $100,000) by Tendler to the victim in exchange for promises for her to be quiet, hand over the evidence, and agree never to talk about the allegations again.

Michelle Tendler (Mordecai Tendler’s wife) acknowledged in a letter that payment was made to one of the victims (copy of the handwritten letter that was signed by her is available upon request).

Another alleged survivor went to Rabbi Tendler for his guidance and counseling to help her with personal and marriage issues. He asked her to “make out” with him, eventually asked this woman to have an affair with him. She refused, and when she and her husband came forward with allegations, her husband’s job was threatened repeatedly by Rabbi Tendler. Also, the husband was maligned by Tendler and his wife to the whole community with lies and half truths.

Years ago, a woman who was a prominent member of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler’s synogogue was kicked out. Congregation members claimed that she was stalking the rabbi, but in reality Tendler and her were seen together regularly. She went to the D.A. and community members with allegations of sexual misconduct against Tendler, yet at that time no one took her seriously. Since then, Tendler has attempted to destroy her entire life.

Another one of Rabbi Tendler’s alleged Survivors is a young woman. She disclosed to various rabbis and friends of a horrific experience with Mordecai Tendler. These disclosures included threatening her with physical violence and was stalked by Tendler after he disagreed with some of her life decisions. Until this day, she is petrified that he will seek revenge on her or her family members.

A woman confided in several community members and the RCA that she had sought counseling from from Rabbi Mordecai Tendler for marital problems. After several counseling sessions, his advice to her was that she could have some affairs if she wanted. Eventually, her marriage ended in divorce, and the husband and wife claim that Tendler pitted the two of them against each other.

A 15 year old girl told a group of people around a yom tov (holiday) table that she went to Tendler for advice, and he repeatedly asked her to lift up her skirt so that he could see a black and blue mark on her thigh. She refused, and he became angry.

A man stopped going to the synogogue after he asked Tendler a niddah shailah (a question regarding family purity laws), and his answer was to do as he does – to pray for Moshiach to come so that he could have many wives.

One of the alleged survivors is a woman who has serious psychological problems. She made claims to some rabbis that Tendler forcibly had sexual relations with her, and screamed that he was the Moshiach during the act. She was also discovered on one occasion in Tendler’s personal shower by his housekeeper, and was carted away by the police, with no questions asked from his synagogue members or his family.

One woman has claimed that she and her husband went to Tendler for marriage counseling, and during personal sessions with her, he obsessed over whether she was having an extramarital affair. This woman was not having an affair, but felt that Tendler was fixated over the issue. She was feeling very uncomfortable around him, and shortly became aware of another victim’s accusations, so of course, this woman terminated the counseling sessions.

One of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler’s alleged survivors was hit and physically abused on many occasions. She disclosed this information to several community members as well as medical professionals.

A alleged survivor who lived in the community around twelve -thirteen years ago, testified to the RCA, the press and other rabbis. She explained that she left the neighborhood, became non-religious. The reason had to do with the rabbinical sexual misconduct by Tendler. This survivor stated she originally had known him by telephone conversations, calling him occasionally for rabbinical advice.

Eventually she moved into the neighborhood of the synoguge. The survivor met with Rabbi Tendler many times for advice as well as counseling and guidance on dealing with marital problems with her husband. The rabbi offered to help her obtain a get from her husband, but whenever they would meet, he would lock the door to the office, and she reported that she always had a feeling that he was sexually excited, as he would breathe heavily. She ignored these feelings, thinking it was her imagination. One day, she met with him and a group of rabbis to finalize the get arrangements. After the meeting, Tendler asked here to stay behind. When they were alone, he asked here to go with him to another location and have sex. She was shocked, and somehow put him off. During this time, she and her five children were living in a basement apartment, and did not have enough money for food, and were about to be evicted for inability to pay rent. After the initial sexual proposition, Tendler proceeded to call this woman several times a week, speaking to her inappropriately, asking for sex, offering to come over and bathe her, etc. Somehow, this woman kept putting him off, telling him she wasn’t ready to think of any relationship until she received her get, that there was too much on her mind, etc. On the day that she did receive her get, she ran out of the building a soon as the procedure was complete. The rabbi ran after her, yelling out her name, asking her if she was now ready to have an affair with him. She turned around, yelled at him with some choice comments, and left. She left the community and Judaism.

Since then, the Tendler supporters have drummed up false information that Tendler was not involved in this woman’s get proceedings, but the RCA discovered clear evidence that indeed he was very much involved in the get proceedings.

 
At 7:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I REPEAT!
JWB and his entire website are the wicked people that the chofetz chaim warns of. all of you losers with nothing to do but spread loshon horah about innocent people and attempt to destroy them and their families will iy"h boil in the same pot of excrement as the wicked women accusing rav tendler. the rca is an organization made up primarily of MEDIOCRE rabbanim who's foremost purpose is to protect the interest of the rca-yu-ou-$, one large organization. it is hard to blame the rca since they are simply trying to cover for themselves after they messed up with the baruch lanner incident. the problem is that until now people have actually taken the rca seriously as if they actually do something or are an organization of gedolim. in truth, no one on the rca is close to the caliber of r' dovid feinstein. rav dovid is absolutely convinced of his nephews complete innocence or he would never have spoken publicly on his behalf. i am sure that this blog site will continue to destroy rav tendler because most of you are evil and wicked people who apparently have time to waste on this garbage all day and all night. (mabye try opening up a chumash instead, it will be far more productive.) you should just remember that ultimately you will all burn in hell (probably in the excrement that i mentioned before) for attempting to destroy this tzadik, rav tendler and his devoted family. ultimately the truth will prevail.

 
At 7:57 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Could the anonymous idiot try to cite sources for a change?

Here are mine:
see: RCA Roundtable, Nissan 5752
...
LASHON HARA

Is discussing or reporting an alleged abuser a violation of the laws against lashon hara? Consider the Talmudic case of Tuvya and Zigud (Pesahim 113b),

It once happened that Tuvya sinned and Zigud came and testified against him alone before R. Papa. He had Zigud punished. "Tuvya sinned and Zigud is punished!" he exclaimed. He said to him, "Yes, for it is written, 'One witness shall not rise up against a man' (Deut. 19-15), whereas you have testified against him alone; you have merely brought him into ill repute."

Since this testimony was inadmissible, Zigud has done no more than spread ugly rumors about the accused and has violated the prohibition, "Thou shalt not go as a talebearer" (Lev. 19-16).

However, R. Papa's actions in Pesahim seem to be contradicted by the Talmud (Baba Kamma 56a) which condemns even a single individual who withholds evidence as one who is exempt from human judgment but liable to the judgments of Heaven. Rashi observes that since the attestation of one witness can obligate the party to take an oath, such testimony is efficacious: such a statement is not lashon hara and its declaration is imperative. Rema extends the moral imperative of one witness to testify to all cases in which there is a benefit, including preventing another person from sinning. (Gloss to Hoshen Mishpat 28-1) In fact, there is no contradiction. The case of Tuvya and Zigud teaches that if the sin has already been committed, the testimony of only one witness is prohibited, constituting a violation of motsi shem ra. Baba Kamma requires testimony because there will be a future benefit.

Despite the permissibility generated by the need to prevent future injury, Hafetz Hayyim prohibits the revelation of any information that would cause harm to the accused that is not based on bonafide evidence worthy of a court of Iaw. (Hafetz Hayyim, Be'er Mayyim Hayyim, Hilkhot Rehilut, kelal 7, no. 20.) This prevents an innocent person from becoming the victim of false accusations and slander.(Be'er Mayyim Hayyim, Hilkhot Rehilut, Kelal 9, no. 20.) This restriction severely hinders the revelation of instances of child abuse where the only confirmation of the abuse is the statements of minors whose veracity is unreliable, as they are generally considered as unfit witnesses, (Hilkhot Edut 9-1; Hoshen Mishpat 35-1) or circumstantial physical evidence. However, because confidential reports to agencies responsible for investigating such allegations will not harm a person's reputation and because the testimony of children, supported by significant suspicions, may be acceptable testimony,(Gloss of Rema to Hoshen Mishpat 35-14 which, under certain circumstances, accepts minors as eidei birrur based on a Takkanat kadmonim ascribed to either Rabbeinu Tam or Rabbeinu Gershom Me'Or haGolah.) this restriction does not prevent the proper prosecution of abusers or endanger the well being of children. In addition, when physical and mental pikuach nefesh is involved, one must, after careful deliberation and consideration of the evidence and its consequences, reveal serious suspicions.

Thus, in cases of child abuse, where, after careful evaluation of the evidence it is believed that abuse has occurred, there is no prohibition of rehilut-- even outside of the judiciary process. On the contrary, it is a mitzvah to inform others so as to protect them and their families from possible harm. Hafetz Hayyim, rejecting the possible objections of those who would deem this an unwarranted leniency, states that withholding such information is tantamount to withholding testimony in a court of law and is prohibited by "Thou shalt not stand idly by the blood of thy brother" (Lev. 19-16).(Be'er Mayyim Hayyim, Hilkhot Rehilut. kelal 9, no. 1.) This obligation to reveal this information holds: even outside of court proceedings;(Hilkhot Rehilut, kelal 9, no. 3) even if the informer is the sole source of information; even if the statement is based solely upon hearsay; and even if the abuser promises not to harm anyone else if there is concern that he cannot be trusted. (Hilkhot Rehilut, kelal 9, no. 3 and Be'er Mayyim Hayyim nos. 9 and 10)
...

 
At 7:59 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

see: RCA Roundtable, Nissan 5752
...
The Mishnah, Avot 4-4, reminds us that sequestering a hillul Hashem will always be unsuccessful: "Whoever desecrates the name of Heaven in private will ultimately be punished in public, whether the desecration was committed unintentionally or intentionally." Hence, a conspiracy to conceal information about abuse will ultimately be made public, creating an even greater hillul Hashem. The greater severity of the hillul Hashem in concealing the information can be further supported by the Talmud, Yoma 86b, which maintains that "one should expose hypocrites to prevent the desecration of the Name. (See also Hilkhot De'ot 6-8) Rashi explains that the reason for this disclosure is that people, thinking that this person is righteous, may learn from his behavior. Rambam is of the opinion that after unsuccessful attempts to correct the matter privately, public remonstration and broadcasting of the outrage is required. There is no concern about the hillul Hashem of exposing the offense.
...

 
At 8:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does one access the RCA Roundtable?

 
At 8:18 PM, Anonymous grey pickle said...

"in truth, no one on the rca is close to the caliber of r' dovid feinstein. rav dovid is absolutely convinced of his nephews complete innocence or he would never have spoken publicly on his behalf. i am sure that this blog site will continue to destroy rav tendler because most of you are evil and wicked people who apparently have time to waste on this garbage all day and all night. (mabye try opening up a chumash instead, it will be far more productive.) you should just remember that ultimately you will all burn in hell (probably in the excrement that i mentioned before) for attempting to destroy this tzadik, rav tendler and his devoted family. ultimately the truth will prevail."

 
At 8:29 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>How does one access the RCA
>Roundtable?

http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/legal.html#The%20Physical

 
At 12:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now that there is some pretty convincing evidence, does anyone know if there are dayonim who are dealing with the kashrus of the gittin that Tendler wrote? Is the Israeli Rabbanut Harashit aware?

 
At 12:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Gittin are valid. They must be. How could they be dependent on the secret sex-life of the Rabbi who wrote them? Do you want to make more victims? Mamzerim this time? Also you want to invalidate other decisions Batei Din made that Tendler headed? You want to invalidate conversions? It cannot be. Where would be the end?

 
At 5:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a lot of women!

It's unfortunate not seeing more comments thanking these women for their bravery in coming forward.

May they all find some peace, and healing, soon.

 
At 5:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've heard rummors that there were many more survivors. This was just those who felt safe enough to come forward.

Can you imagine how difficult it was for each of these women when they learned the RCA turned their files over to their alleged offender?

Where is the public apology from this rabbincial organization? How can we have any respect for them, or look to them as our spiritual leaders with out one?

Tendler along with those who have been harassing these brave women also owe each and everyone one of them an apology.

 
At 5:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've heard rummors that there were many more survivors. This was just those who felt safe enough to come forward.

Can you imagine how difficult it was for each of these women when they learned the RCA turned their files over to their alleged offender?

Where is the public apology from this rabbincial organization? How can we have any respect for them, or look to them as our spiritual leaders with out one?

Tendler along with those who have been harassing these brave women also owe each and everyone one of them an apology.

 
At 5:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've heard rummors that there were many more survivors. This was just those who felt safe enough to come forward.

Can you imagine how difficult it was for each of these women when they learned the RCA turned their files over to their alleged offender?

Where is the public apology from this rabbincial organization? How can we have any respect for them, or look to them as our spiritual leaders with out one?

Tendler along with those who have been harassing these brave women also owe each and everyone one of them an apology.

 
At 7:08 AM, Anonymous Ex President said...

Although I stated I would not post anymore, I feel the need to convey this message. I would like to make a comment to all those that read the blogs, if I may, especially those associated with KNH or live and know about the community. I have noticed that there are members, Board members, and others associated with KNH in some way, that are posting under their true names, or as "anonymous". The blogs, as all of us know and have seen, contain completely inaccurate information and outright lies that simply fuel the fire of controversy. More importantly, it puts doubts and questions in people's minds that allows one to paint a picture of the situation that is completely false. Since we are all human and prone to the "tabloid like" and salacious comments that are posted, we then tell others the "gossip" that we read or heard about on these sites. As misinformation is trickled down from one to the next, and no doubt gets changed and modified along the way, spreading these rumors becomes a very dangerous weapon. It is like an addiction, but the dangerous side effects in this case are known as Loshen Hara, Motzei Shem Ra, and Rechilus. Any fearful Jew who even slightly has a sense of common decency and respect for Torah should know that reading blogs is contrary to all of the Chofetz Chaim's teaching. By now we have all heard, and may have actually read, the post in the name of Jean Joffen, that was on one of the blogs. How much more sick could it get or what better proof does one need to see what blogs are all about. I think the Board needs to inform the membership that it is unhealthy to read the blogs and for sure, even more unhealthy to post. If you look at blogs in general, other than jewishwhistleblower, newhempsteadnews, and jewishidea, you will see that at most, comments to these blogs get maybe 5-10 responses at most. Jewishwhistleblower has gotten on some posting related to the Rabbi of 150+ per storyline. Bloging is like reproductive cycle of rabbits, it is rampant and continuously multiplies. People need to stop blogging so that the individuals behind the blogs wind up with only a handful of people communicating. While we can appreciate the need and desire for people to try to set the record straight, by posting information, even the true information winds up getting twisted around, and new rumors break off of that. But ultimately, no one can determine which is truth and which is sheker. People, especially members should realize that ultimately, it is in the best interest of the Rabbi and KNH to refrain from blogging and to refrain in general from reading them as well. You will also no doubt, help to save the soul of JWB as well.

 
At 8:21 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"People need to stop blogging so that the individuals behind the blogs wind up with only a handful of people communicating."


What a load of hooey! These blogs have turned out to be the best friend any abused woman could ever hope for.
For all the messages to 'shut up' about abuse, these forums burst down the dams of silencing.

Not only that, if only one other woman out there who is brainwashed into believing the 'teachings' of her 'rebbe' are something 'healing', 'therapeutic',is reading, those little seeds planted on the reality of the situation---manipulation and abuse, cult-like training and worship--- will eventually help her when she needs to make her break.

 
At 8:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like "Ex-President" is getting nervous. Notice he did not respond to the blogs about his conduct in the past. Here is a guy who writes a letter to other frum Jews in New Hempstead spewing that Hashem hears only the davening of Jews in Rabbi Tendler's shul, but not other shuls, who now gets on the internet and tells people to stop communicating. Give me a break! Maybe "Ex-President" would like to take an opportunity to repudiate his prior nonsense statements before asking others to refrain from discussing legitimate issues that are very distrubing to many people.

 
At 9:45 AM, Anonymous Havm said...

JWB (or G), after all the laughter subsides you will indeed be left twisting ...

 
At 9:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are these women "survivors"? They are by their own admission sluts, and if not then they are liars and otherwise scum.

 
At 10:08 AM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Ex-President sounds scared.

Danny boy still silent.

I'm not G, I'm JWB.

No laughter, just truth.

Victims/survivors who came forward are heroes. Rabbi Mordechai Tendler is the sexual predator.

 
At 12:22 PM, Blogger Daniel B. Schwartz said...

Daniel Schwartz here jewishwhistleblower said...
Ex-President sounds scared.

Danny boy still silent.

I respond:
I will remain silent until you tell us all who you are. Why should I speak substantively with someone who has neither the courage nor even the basic decency to "stand up and be counted?" What are you afraid of JWB? Are you in fact a two faced liar, in person acting like you support RMT in order to glean information, all the while acting against him on this Blog? It's fairly obvious that you are personally acquainted with R. Tendler and you probably daven at KNH or know many people who do. So JWB, are you simply a sniveling coward hiding behind a veil of anonymity, or are you something far more evil?

 
At 4:56 PM, Anonymous Havm said...

Counsel Schwartz is correct. JWB does seem to be personally acquainted with his long-time obsession, Rav Mordechai Tendler, and he probably davened at some time at KNH. JWB is definitely a sniveling coward hiding behind a veil of anonymity, and he is unquestionably something far more evil.

 
At 5:00 PM, Anonymous GREY PICKLE said...

"Is the Israeli Rabbanut Harashit aware?"

That is somethinG that someone who is posting from Israel would know.

 
At 5:31 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>Daniel Schwartz here
>jewishwhistleblower said...
>Ex-President sounds scared.
>
>Danny boy still silent.
>
>I respond:
>I will remain silent until you
>tell us all who you are.

Basically, Danny boy letting us know he won't answer our questions. No suprise. Answers are too dangerous.

>Why should I speak substantively
>with someone who has neither the
>courage nor even the basic
>decency to "stand up and be
>counted?" What are you afraid of
>JWB? Are you in fact a two faced
>liar, in person acting like you
>support RMT in order to glean
>information, all the while
>acting against him on this Blog?

Very simply I've seen your work with Rabbi Mordechai Tendler at the RCA. It's very clear why you need my name. It's not for discussion purposes, you're more than capable Danny boy of doing that here.

>It's fairly obvious that you are
>personally acquainted with R.
>Tendler and you probably daven
>at KNH or know many people who
>do.

Lots of fishing there Danny boy.

>So JWB, are you simply a
>sniveling coward hiding behind a
>veil of anonymity, or are you
>something far more evil?

Danny boy likes his adjectives, doesn't he? But of course name calling and smearing seem to be his intent here, not enlightening or addressing our questions.

Danny boy, ridiculous Danny boy why would anyone fear you, Danny boy. You're all talk and no action. Readers continue to watch Danny boy refuse to answer all questions posted to him. Remember he was involved with the RCA fiasco. Remember how that went Danny boy, it got your Rebbe expelled and plastered over the Jewish press. Fine work Danny boy.

Typical, Danny boy success story.

 
At 5:42 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>Counsel Schwartz is correct.

Please readers, we refer to him as "Danny boy". As long as he posts silly childish rants with many adjectives, he is "Danny boy".

>JWB does seem to be personally
>acquainted with his long-time
>obsession, Rav Mordechai >Tendler,

Fishing.

>and he probably davened at some
>time at KNH.

More fishing.

>JWB is definitely a sniveling
>coward hiding behind a veil of
>anonymity,

Says the anonymous poster HAVM who steals Danny boys childish rant and trademark phrase "sniveling
coward". Or perhapse KNH/Rabbi Mordechai Tendler enablers are all working from this week's
talking points.

>and he is unquestionably
>something far more evil.

Wow a Danny boy wannabe ("or are you something far more evil?"). HAVM why are all your phrases virtually identical to Danny boy's. Do you have something to tell us? Or does this say something about you? Hmmmmm.......

Danny boy and Danny boy wannabe, you imply I am evil, yet you follow and enable a rasha that has preyed on vulnerable women. Perhaps to find true evil you only need a mirror or glance at your Rebbe.

Thank you for demonstrating to my many readers your inability to answer my simple questions and your limited talking points.

 
At 5:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

no need to fish anymore!

 
At 5:49 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>no need to fish anymore!

Considering the low level of comments and detective work (not to mention the non-responses to any and all questions) it seems all you have caught are old shoes and busted tires.

 
At 5:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You really are desperate! Once you fell flat on your face with your assertions and insistence that the Feinsteins are not behind Rabbi Tendler, your true colors have come out. You post all the old allegations, for no purpose other then to try to recreate a hue and cry, when it is clear that until there is something new and definitive,the general perception is that this is a witch hunt, and those who have lead it are desperately doing anything to regain footing. Where is all the promised "evidence"?...the "wait for Sunday night"? enough with the rumour mongering and sheker!!

 
At 6:00 PM, Anonymous Aguna said...

There are many ways to fish. It all depends what you hope to catch. As the saying goes, "There's more than one way to Pickle a cat".

 
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At 6:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You really are desperate! Once you fell flat on your face with your assertions and insistence that the Feinsteins are not behind Rabbi Tendler, your true colors have come out. You post all the old allegations, for no purpose other then to try to recreate a hue and cry, when it is clear that until there is something new and definitive,the general perception is that this is a witch hunt, and those who have lead it are desperately doing anything to regain footing. Where is all the promised "evidence"?...the "wait for Sunday night"? enough with the rumour mongering and sheker

 
At 7:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not sure what everyone is trying to accomplish on this blog. We are neither RMT judge or jury. In terms of his position as rabbi in KNH thats something for his membership to decide. And as far as exposing him to prevent other women from going to him for advice, I dont think thats an issue anymore. Anyone one whould have to be blind and dumb to allow a family member to get to close to him. Ask how many of his friend would send their wives to him these days.

 
At 7:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

where is JWB?

 
At 8:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The more I read about this case, and the reactions of those who belong to Tendler's shul, I have to stop and wonder if the following article would be helpful?


"It Hurts" (Leaving a Cult)

By Jan Groenveld

IT HURTS to discover you were deceived - that what you thought was the "one true religion," the "path to total fredom," or "truth" was in reality a cult.

IT HURTS when you learn that people you trusted implicitly - whom you were taught not to question - were "pulling the wool over your eyes" albeit unwittingly.

IT HURTS when you learn that those you were taught were your "enemies" were telling the truth after all -- but you had been told they were liars, deceivers, repressive, satanic etc and not to listen to them.

IT HURTS when you know your faith in God hasn't changed - only your trust in an organization - yet you are accused of apostasy, being a trouble maker. It hurts even more when it is your family and friends making these accusations.

IT HURTS to realize their love and acceptance was conditional on you remaining a member of good standing. This cuts so deeply you try and suppress it. All you want to do is forget - but how can you forget your family and friends?

IT HURTS to see the looks of hatred coming from the faces of those you love - to hear the deafening silence when you try and talk to them. It cuts deeply when you try and give your child a hug and they stand like a statue, pretending you aren't there. It stabs like a knife when you know your spouse looks upon you as demonised and teaches your children to hate you.

IT HURTS to know you must start all over again. You feel you have wasted so much time. You feel betrayed, disillusioned, suspicious of everyone including family, friends and other former members.

IT HURTS when you find yourself feeling guilty or ashamed of what you were - even about leaving them. You feel depressed, confused, lonely. You find it difficult to make decisions. You don't know what to do with yourself because you have so much time on your hands now - yet you still feel guilty for spending time on recreation.

IT HURTS when you feel as though you have lost touch with reality. You feel as though you are "floating" and wonder if you really are better off and long for the security you had in the organization and yet you know you cannot go back.

IT HURTS when you feel you are all alone - that no one seems to understand what you are feeling. It hurts when you realize your self confidence and self worth are almost non-existent.

IT HURTS when you have to front up to friends and family to hear their "I told you so" whether that statement is verbal or not. It makes you feel even more stupid than you already do - your confidence and self worth plummet even further.

IT HURTS when you realize you gave up everything for the cult - your education, career, finances, time and energy - and now have to seek employment or restart your education. How do you explain all those missing years?

IT HURTS because you know that even though you were deceived, you are responsible for being taken in. All that wasted time........ at least that is what it seems to you - wasted time.

THE PAIN OF GRIEF

Leaving a cult is like experiencing the death of a close relative or a broken relationship. The feeling is often described as like having been betrayed by someone with whom you were in love. You feel you were simply used.

There is a grieving process to pass through. Whereas most people understand that a person must grieve after a death etc, they find it difficult to understand the same applies in this situation. There is no instant cure for the grief, confusion and pain. Like all grieving periods, time is the healer. Some feel guilty, or wrong about this grief. They shouldn't -- It IS normal. It is NOT wrong to feel confused, uncertain, disillusioned, guilty, angry, untrusting - these are all part of the process. In time the negative feelings will be replaced with clear thinking, joy, peace, and trust.

YES - IT HURTS BUT THE HURTS WILL HEAL WITH TIME, PATIENCE & UNDERSTANDING

There is life after the cult

 
At 8:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's another resource if you are interested:
http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/cults.html

 
At 12:03 AM, Anonymous Guss' Famous said...

A lot of the anonymous posts seem to be written by the same person. JWB perhaps? Hmm, the site doesn't seem to be getting as many responses as it used to. Perhaps because people have realized that JWB is irrelevant and without credibility? Just repeating old news, trying to drum up some sensationalistic piece to draw attention back to himself and his blog. It's ok. It's normal human behavior. We all need to be respected by someone. Most of us have our family , spouses, parents, children,uncles and cousins, to feel some self worth and to feel important, respected and loved. Those of us that don't, have their blogs.

 
At 5:21 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The site is not getting as many posts for the simple reason that the situation now is in a holding pattern. There is not, for now, that much more to say that has not been said. The supporters of Rabbi Tendler who chose to identify themselves have all run away, yelping and with their tails between their legs. There is much going on behind the scenes and there will be further developments in the near future. This is not JWB, by the way.

 
At 6:09 AM, Anonymous Havm said...

This blog is the epitomy of what the Gemara refers to as Sagi Nahar. Dedicated to transparency and accountablity? Quite the opposite. JWB (or G) is a bitter pathalogical liar who will make up anything to keep his hatred and fantasies going. If true facts get in the way, make up new facts. Truth has never been in his vocabulary, and all his readers (to the extent he has any readers and they are honest), from DC, to Philly, to Long Island, to Florida, to Israel, to California, to wherever they may be, know that any semblence of emes will not sprout from this or any blog where he or his buddies have any role. So folks, just turn out the lights on JWB and leave him twisting solo in the wind.

 
At 6:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all the supporters of cult leader Mordechai Tendler,

If this blog is so evil, why are you here reading it?

If it's lashon hara, why are you so obsessed with it?

The reality is that it is hard to face the truth. It's both sad and scary that the person you admired most turned out to be an alleged sociopath, and that you were taken in by him. Many people were, and have been for years.

It's ok to admit you made a mistake and your judgement was off with this one. It can happen to anyone.

There's many articles out there that can help you. Just google the term "mind control", "psychological manipulation", or even the term "cults". There's help for you out there if you just look, or ask.

 
At 7:06 AM, Blogger Daniel B. Schwartz said...

Please see me interspersed responses below.

jewishwhistleblower said...
>Daniel Schwartz here
>jewishwhistleblower said...
>Ex-President sounds scared.
>
>Danny boy still silent.
>
>I respond:
>I will remain silent until you
>tell us all who you are.

Basically, Danny boy letting us know he won't answer our questions. No suprise. Answers are too dangerous.

DBS says: Basically JWB won't come out from under the rock where s/he hides and indentify himself/herself to is. No surprise. JWB's identity is too dangerous to JWB.

>Why should I speak substantively
>with someone who has neither the
>courage nor even the basic
>decency to "stand up and be
>counted?" What are you afraid of
>JWB? Are you in fact a two faced
>liar, in person acting like you
>support RMT in order to glean
>information, all the while
>acting against him on this Blog?

Very simply I've seen your work with Rabbi Mordechai Tendler at the RCA. It's very clear why you need my name. It's not for discussion purposes, you're more than capable Danny boy of doing that here.

DBS says: You'e seen my work with the RCA eh? That's a very telling statement. I can determine exactly who as seen that work. thanks JWB, you've made my job of outing you much easier.

>It's fairly obvious that you are
>personally acquainted with R.
>Tendler and you probably daven
>at KNH or know many people who
>do.

Lots of fishing there Danny boy.

DBS says: Indeed it is. Fish enough and you land the big one. Trust me when I indentify you, I will be merciless. And catch you I will.

>So JWB, are you simply a
>sniveling coward hiding behind a
>veil of anonymity, or are you
>something far more evil?

Danny boy likes his adjectives, doesn't he? But of course name calling and smearing seem to be his intent here, not enlightening or addressing our questions.

DBS says: much like your agenda? The difference between us is that I don't lie and spread misinformation. You do. But then again I can't do that. I use my real name to post here. You are a sniveling coward who remain anonymous.

Danny boy, ridiculous Danny boy why would anyone fear you, Danny boy. You're all talk and no action. Readers continue to watch Danny boy refuse to answer all questions posted to him.

DBS says: i've made it quite clear. I'm prepared to answer any question posed from anyone with the decency to indentify themselves.

Remember he was involved with the RCA fiasco. Remember how that went Danny boy, it got your Rebbe expelled and plastered over the Jewish press. Fine work Danny boy.

Typical, Danny boy success story.

DBS says: "kol yerida hi rak k'dei shetihiyeh aliyah.

 
At 9:17 AM, Anonymous Havm said...

This blog is the epitomy of what the Gemara refers to as Sagi Nahar. Dedicated to transparency and accountablity? Quite the opposite. JWB (or G) is a bitter pathalogical liar who will make up anything to keep his hatred and fantasies going. If true facts get in the way, make up new facts. Truth has never been in his vocabulary, and all his readers (to the extent he has any readers and they are honest), from DC, to Philly, to Long Island, to Florida, to Israel, to California, to wherever they may be, know that any semblence of emes will not sprout from this or any blog where he or his buddies have any role. So folks, just turn out the lights on JWB and leave him twisting solo in the wind.

 
At 10:30 AM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>DBS says: i've made it quite
>clear. I'm prepared to answer
>any question posed from anyone
>with the decency to indentify
>themselves.

Lots of questions in this week's Jewish Week regarding RMT's settlement with a victim. No answers from Danny boy.

 
At 2:14 PM, Blogger Daniel B. Schwartz said...

jewishwhistleblower said...
>DBS says: i've made it quite
>clear. I'm prepared to answer
>any question posed from anyone
>with the decency to indentify
>themselves.

Lots of questions in this week's Jewish Week regarding RMT's settlement with a victim. No answers from Danny boy.

DBS says: Perhaps you need to review some basic reading. There are no questions posed to me in the article. If you, a sniveling cretinous coward want information, all you need to do is tell me your name. What's so hard about that? What are you afraid of? Why do you lurk about in the shadows of anonymity? Like Somnus in Handel's Semele do you find light to be loathsome and silent night more receptive? Why do you yearn for Lethe to murmer you to peace? What deep dark secret are hiding from the world?

 
At 6:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just to show you how much is "new" on JWB, I paste a copy of the Jewish Press editorial from 3 months ago, where the allegations and the way they are being bandied about as "fact" are shown for what they are worth!
In last week`s edition of the Jewish Week, Publisher Gary Rosenblatt was transparently falling all over himself trying to get in on the Forward`s four-month-old "scoop" on the Rabbinical Council of America's investigation of charges of "sexual harassment" allegations against a "prominent [Orthodox] rabbi." But Rosenblatt — as the Forward did before him — fell flat on his face. Both came up with a pastiche of unattributed claims and innuendo, while the rabbi — who of course was named, with his pedigree duly noted — was smeared throughout the article. And Rosenblatt`s piece, though purporting to offer new information, was actually less substantial than even the Forward's flimsy story.

In its August 27, 2004 issue, in a front-page article headlined " Rabbinical Council Is Probing Claims of Sexual Harassment," the Forward told us that:

The main union of Modern Orthodox rabbis [the Rabbinical Council of America] is investigating allegations of sexual harassment against the scion of a prominent rabbinic family, the Forward has learned.

We were also told that the matter came to the RCA in January, after "several women" brought the allegations to "a member of the RCA`s executive board who specializes in religious questions regarding abuse against women and children."

We were then informed that "several sources informed the Forward that a number of women have told friends and Jewish communal figures that ... [the rabbi] had propositioned them while serving in his role as either rabbinic counselor or religious arbiter;" that "Two of [the rabbi`s] accusers outlined their allegations in interviews with the Forward, but asked not to be identified"; that "A source who has spoken to several of the alleged victims told the Forward that the women were afraid to come forth. In addition, several alleged victims have refused to air their claims publicly, for fear of committing sacrilege by shaming a prominent rabbi."

We were also told that "[T]wo prominent rabbis, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Forward that they first heard about complaints regarding ... [the rabbi being investigated] several years ago"; and that "According to two sources, ... [the rabbi] reached a settlement with one woman who claims to have been seduced by the rabbi while seeing him for marriage counseling. When contacted by the Forward, the woman`s lawyer declined to discuss the case." (Emphasis added throughout.)

The Forward did almost identify one accuser who reportedly told the paper that 12 years ago the rabbi "propositioned her while he adjudicated her divorce and a rent dispute." Actually, the Forward acknowledged that the name given for her is not current and that she "now goes by a different name." In any event, it is not made clear when the alleged propositioning took place, but the accuser`s landlord was said to have denied that the rabbi sat on the beit din hearing the rent dispute and the rabbi`s spokesman denied the accusation, noting that it only surfaced 12 years after it supposedly happened.

And here is what Gary Rosenblatt had to say in his catch-up article entitled "Rabbinic Abuse Case Hits Snag":

A rabbinic investigation into charges of sexual harassment against a prominent colleague seems to have sparked its own controversy.

The Jewish Week has learned that a committee from the Rabbinical Council of America, the largest organization of Orthodox Rabbis in the country, has shared the findings of an eight-month investigation with the accused ... to allow him to prepare a defense.

It is alleged that the rabbi then contacted at least one of the women named in the report and sought to intimidate her, a charge denied by the rabbi`s attorney...

Also under dispute is whether the women who spoke to the investigator knew that their names would be shared with the rabbi.

There's more, but it is worth pausing to reflect on what has already been said.

Astonishingly, it is characterized as controversial that an accused would be given the evidence against him and the identity of his accusers. For Heaven`s sake, how can anybody conceivably defend against charges without this information? Nor are we sure of what to make of the phrase "at least one of the women" who were allegedly contacted by the rabbi. But she certainly is not identified.

Rosenblatt goes on to say:

The nature of the charges and the stature of the rabbi and his family in Orthodox circles makes this a particularly difficult and delicate case....

"They [the RCA] are trying to do the right thing, but they are floundering," one rabbi, who asked to remain anonymous, said of the RCA committee. "They were hoping the investigator`s report would be more definitive one way or the other, but the nature of it is primarily he said, she said,` and now they are looking for more evidence."

Someone who has seen the report said it is not definitive, "but there is a lot of smoke," and it indicates that at the very least a number of "serious mistakes in judgment were made" by [the rabbi].

A meeting [of the RCA committee] is planned for later this month. Meanwhile, efforts are continuing to find "evidence that allegedly is out there," according to one source.

Several sources said a tape recording exists of a conversation between [the rabbi] and one of the women that indicates an intimate relationship. A cleaning woman originally from Jamaica told The Jewish Week that she worked for a woman ... who admitted to her that she had an intimate relationship with the rabbi. [Emphasis added throughout.]

Again a pause to reflect. This is pretty extraordinary stuff. Rosenblatt offers no evidence for his assertion that the RCA committee is having a problem because of the prominence and provenance of the rabbi. He also relies on the report of "one rabbi, who asked to remain anonymous" for his claim that the committee is "floundering." Rosenblatt acknowledges that there is no definitive evidence to this date but still goes on to quote someone who says "there is a lot of smoke" about "serious mistakes in judgment" by the rabbi. And his reference to the hearsay comment of the "cleaning lady" as the sole support for the existence of an incriminating tape, despite referring to several sources, defies belief.

To be sure, Rosenblatt does give names for two of the women who are accusers of the rabbi. However, one claims that an incident occurred 12 years ago and the aforementioned Forward article had reported that she has since changed her name. And the second of the two identified accusers — and Rosenblatt only gives us her maiden name in any event — claimed, according to Rosenblatt, that the rabbi was too probing in his questioning which she "felt" was "inappropriate"; "he was fixated on whether I was having an affair;" and he "used" information she and her husband gave him "to drive them apart rather than help them unite." Rosenblatt also quotes the second lady as follows: "He [the rabbi] helps so many people, but for every woman he has helped, I think there`s another he`s abused."

Why would Rosenblatt put himself through such grueling journalistic gymnastics to get into print with this — certainly at this point in time — non-story? Perhaps he'd been seething ever since the Forward beat him to the Orthodox-bashing punch in August. Indeed, he said this in the article:

The Jewish Week first learned of the allegations against [the rabbi] in November when several women attending a Jewish Week forum on rabbinic sex abuse voiced their charges privately, following the program.

The newspaper, while tracking the case through interviews with dozens of rabbis, women and others knowledgeable about the situation, chose not to report on it as the RCA investigation moved forward. But the newspaper changed its views after the story became public through an article in the Forward this fall and the RCA report was released [by the rabbi] through his attorney. [Emphasis added throughout.]

This clearly has the taste of sour grapes. Especially since Rosenblatt`s piece appeared four months after the Forward article to which he has added absolutely nothing. But more importantly, his apologia, with all of its indefiniteness, underscores what Rosenblatt was up to. This is not to pass on the merits of the charges. We simply do not know. More to the point, neither does the Jewish Week or the Forward. Right now, it's still a matter of he said-she said. Yet this did not stop either newspaper from treating the rabbi as someone already found guilty.

 
At 7:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Ex President:
"this case are known as Loshen Hara, Motzei Shem Ra, and Rechilus."

You have maligned women with Loshen Hara, Motzei Shem Ra, and Rechilus; and threaten them. You’re not even credible enough to say the name Chofetz Chaim's.

You are part of KNH boys club to cover up by saying it’s the women and it is others who have it out for 'our leader'. Because properly your like the other 'frum' boys have cheated on there wives.

"Any fearful Jew who even slightly has a sense of common decency and respect for Torah..."

You don't and are
"twisted around"

 
At 7:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daniel Schwartz, you are vulgar. But we aren't scared of you, the truth is out. Name calling, your gross; drooling to get at the safety net of the victims guardian JWB, your guts is from trash.

We are watching you, can't wait till you fall.

 
At 7:29 AM, Blogger Daniel B. Schwartz said...

Anonymous said...
Daniel Schwartz, you are vulgar. But we aren't scared of you, the truth is out. Name calling, your gross; drooling to get at the safety net of the victims guardian JWB, your guts is from trash.

We are watching you, can't wait till you fall.

DBS replies: Bring it on baby. What idiots like you don't realize is that i know you will never do anything legitimate against me. To do so would compromise your anonymity and subject you to open scrutiny. Your credibility and character would be put in issue. You know that and I know that. You want to try to bring me down? Go for it.

 
At 7:44 AM, Anonymous JWB- Jew Without Balls said...

HYPOCRICY OF JWB AND BLOGERS WHO COWARDLY REFUSE TO REVEAL WHO THEY ARE:

BY GARY ROSENBLATT-

Bogged Down By Bloggers
Gary Rosenblatt - Editor and Publisher
http://www.thejewishweek.com/top/editcolcontent.php3


"That’s not the way journalism is supposed to work, but there’s not much I can do about it. Over the years in this profession I’ve gotten thicker skin, but there are people whose lives are more private than mine whose reputations and character are maligned in these reports. They have no one to turn to in order to set the record straight, and that’s just not right."

" To be sure, there are some very thoughtful and worthwhile bloggers out there, and they tend to be the ones who identify themselves and have an expertise in and passion for the subjects they write about.
What bothers me, though, is that in this still emerging field, there is no accountability and there are no professional standards to be met. In the rush to get a story out first, the emphasis is on timeliness rather than accuracy, with seemingly little regard –– or responsibility –– for printing rumors or theories that are untrue.

"So people who are mentioned and maligned by an anonymous blogger have no recourse."

"yet there are countless people reading blogs on the Web by would-be journalists whose reports go unsubstantiated and unedited, and the results are often hurtful, damaging people’s characters and reputations."

"More upsetting are the bloggers who criticize individuals by name, make accusations against rabbis and communal leaders, but don’t have the guts to identify themselves, or bother to interview the people they write about."

"One of the better known Jewish reporting blogs calls for “accountability and transparency within our institutions and leadership,” a noble goal, indeed. But the “About me” area on the home page where the blogger usually posts some details about him or her self is empty. To demand full disclosure of others without identifying one’s self seems the height of chutzpah and hypocrisy to me."

THATS WHY YOU ARE :

JWB - JEW WITHOUT BALLS

 
At 6:35 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

Danny Boy Schwartz said...
...
>DBS replies: Bring it on baby.
>What idiots like you don't
>realize is that i know you will
>never do anything legitimate
>against me. To do so would
>compromise your anonymity and
>subject you to open scrutiny.

Translation: harassment and intimidation

>Your credibility and character
>would be put in issue. You know
>that and I know that. You want
>to try to bring me down? Go for
>it.

Seems like Danny boy and his continuing silence and refusal to answer questions will continue.

 
At 5:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know Danny Boy from when we were kids and everyone new then as they know now that he is very very naive, Why doesn't he have his wife have tea with the predator? Huh!

 
At 12:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 12:15 PM, Anonymous said...
HOTEL PASSOVER
(sung to the tune of the Eagles "Hotel California")



On the Sinai Desert Highway
Warm wind at my lips,
I look back and remember,
how we left Egypt

And now all around me,
I saw such wonderous sights,
a cloud guiding us by day,
and a pillar of fire at night.

There was blood on the doorway,
when down came Hashem,
Killed all the Egyption first borns,
so we could be free men.

Then Moshe picked up his staff,
and he showed us the way,
As he took us out in the middle of the night,
we heard a Bas Kol say...

You're going to Ma'amat Har Sinai
Such a Holy place,
In God's embrace.
Gettin' the Torah at Ma'amat Har Sinai
Where the nation will be,
One whole family.


When we got to the Red Sea
Depression set in,
Moshe said,
I did not take you to this place,
just to die my friend.

Then he lifted his arms,
and he parted the Sea,
We crossed over to the other side,
where we would all be free.

How many Makot were there?
We could barely keep counts,
As the Egyptions they all died,
Soldiers upon their mounts.

Then Moshe went up so faaaaaaaaaaar away,
Brought down the luchot in middle of the night,
And you'd hear him say.

Welcome to Ma'amat Har Sinai
The Laws are strict
By God's edict
Living in awe at Ma'amat Har Sinai
Where the golden calf
Was broke in half


Now I sit at the seder,
a pillow upon my seat, -- and I thought,
I wonder how long maggid will take,
Until we get to eat.

And at the _____'s table (Fill in where you are that night)
We gather for the feast
Remembering slavery with our bitter herbs
And our bread that has no yeast!

Last thing I remember
We were headed for the door
Hoping we'd find Eliyahu who'd bring,
us back to days of yore

Moshiach is coming
we are commanded to believe
We'll all be returned to Eretz Yisrael
Where we will never leave

 
At 10:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 7:46 PM, Anonymous said...

To Ex President:
"this case are known as Loshen Hara, Motzei Shem Ra, and Rechilus."

You have maligned women with Loshen Hara, Motzei Shem Ra, and Rechilus; and threaten them. You’re not even credible enough to say the name Chofetz Chaim's.

[Huh? What language are you speaking? Did you mean to say the Chafetz Chaim's name?]

You are part of KNH boys club to cover up by saying it’s the women and it is others who have it out for 'our leader'. Because properly your like the other 'frum' boys have cheated on there wives.

[Properly? Did you mean "probably"? JWB you need to get a spell checker/grammar checker installed in this blog for all of your illiterate, unlearned friends. (Obviously, these are not the BTs in KNH, denigrated on newhempsteadnews, as they are educated and knowledgable.) And, it would be "their wives", not "there wives". Do you accuse everybody, with whom you disagree, of cheating on their spouse? This is just pathetic.]

"Any fearful Jew who even slightly has a sense of common decency and respect for Torah..."

You don't and are
"twisted around"

[At least he knows English which is much more than can be said for this poor excuse for a poster.]

 
At 12:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the typo attacker.
BIG DEAL.
Just typo errors.
You are a low life.
Scum. You belong at KNH
Can't deal with any true statements

 
At 12:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the typo attacker.
And it’s obviously, "KNH...are not educated and knowledgable", as you stated they are, since you can't spell. It’s spelled knowledgeable.

 
At 9:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 12:33 AM, Anonymous said...

to the typo attacker.
BIG DEAL.
Just typo errors.
You are a low life.
Scum. You belong at KNH
Can't deal with any true statements

[It is the small mind that when it can no longer argue is reduced to calling names. Just one question (with several sub-questions), when JWB released the report, why did he not also relase that the report only recommended a 3 month suspension and not an expulsion? Why did the RCA ignore the recommendation of the report? Why, if the charges were so severe, was the recommendation JUST a 3 month suspension? Why does JWB sit on this info and not release it?]

 
At 10:11 AM, Blogger Daniel B. Schwartz said...

At 6:35 PM, jewishwhistleblower said...
Danny Boy Schwartz said...
...
>DBS replies: Bring it on baby.
>What idiots like you don't
>realize is that i know you will
>never do anything legitimate
>against me. To do so would
>compromise your anonymity and
>subject you to open scrutiny.

Translation: harassment and intimidation

DBS replies: Do you consider honest and open discussion to be harrasing and intimidating? Are you so pathetically crippled in your interpersonal interactions? I feel sorry for you that you cannot engage people normally.

>Your credibility and character
>would be put in issue. You know
>that and I know that. You want
>to try to bring me down? Go for
>it.

Seems like Danny boy and his continuing silence and refusal to answer questions will continue.

DBS replies: Seems like JWB and his continuing sniveling cowardice will continue. Pathetic.

 
At 7:10 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>Daniel B. Schwartz said...
>>At 6:35 PM, jewishwhistleblower
>>said...
>>
>>Danny Boy Schwartz said...
>>
>>...
>>
>>>DBS replies: Bring it on baby.
>>>What idiots like you don't
>>>realize is that i know you
>>>will never do anything
>>>legitimate against me. To do
>>>so would compromise your
>>>anonymity and subject you to
>>>open scrutiny.
>>Translation: harassment and
>>intimidation
>
>DBS replies: Do you consider
>honest and open discussion to be
>harrasing and intimidating?

What open discussion? You refuse to answer any questions I've posed here. Your silence speaks volumes.

>Are you so pathetically crippled
>in your interpersonal
>interactions? I feel sorry for
>you that you cannot engage
>people normally.

Pathetic is one of Danny Boy's favorite words. He has a very limited vocabulary.

>>>Your credibility and character
>>>would be put in issue. You
>>>know that and I know that. You
>>>want to try to bring me down?
>>>Go for it.
>>
>>Seems like Danny boy and his
>>continuing silence and refusal
>>to answer questions will
>>continue.
>
>DBS replies: Seems like JWB and
>his continuing sniveling
>cowardice will continue.
>Pathetic.

Danny Boy's favorite phrase is "sniveling coward(ice)".

Look he uses the word "pathetic" again! What a surprise!

Danny Boy is neither the sharpest knife in the drawer or the most articulate lawyer/"person".

I don't understand how Danny Boy intimidates anyone.

We will hear no answers to our simple questions from Danny Boy.

 
At 10:42 PM, Anonymous Why? Why? Why? said...

JWB:
Here are the facts on the ground right now:
Thus far, all we have seen is lie after lie after lie. Even if the women are telling the truth, they have told so many lies (or so many lies have been told in their name) that they have no credibility. MT was not thrown out of YSV. Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven and the family are 100% behind MT. KNH and the Board are behind MT. No "DNA evidence" has ever been produced.
The report to the RCA recommended a 3 month suspension indicating that the investigator did not see much there (if any).
The RCA chose to ignore the report and expel MT.
JWB, you have all the answers. Tell us why? Why did the RCA expel MT if the report suggested a 3 month suspension? Why JWB, why?

 
At 9:47 AM, Blogger Daniel B. Schwartz said...

At 7:10 PM, jewishwhistleblower said...
>Daniel B. Schwartz said...
>>At 6:35 PM, jewishwhistleblower
>>said...
>>
>>Danny Boy Schwartz said...
>>
>>...
>>
>>>DBS replies: Bring it on baby.
>>>What idiots like you don't
>>>realize is that i know you
>>>will never do anything
>>>legitimate against me. To do
>>>so would compromise your
>>>anonymity and subject you to
>>>open scrutiny.
>>Translation: harassment and
>>intimidation
>
>DBS replies: Do you consider
>honest and open discussion to be
>harrasing and intimidating?

What open discussion? You refuse to answer any questions I've posed here. Your silence speaks volumes.

>Are you so pathetically crippled
>in your interpersonal
>interactions? I feel sorry for
>you that you cannot engage
>people normally.

Pathetic is one of Danny Boy's favorite words. He has a very limited vocabulary.

>>>Your credibility and character
>>>would be put in issue. You
>>>know that and I know that. You
>>>want to try to bring me down?
>>>Go for it.
>>
>>Seems like Danny boy and his
>>continuing silence and refusal
>>to answer questions will
>>continue.
>
>DBS replies: Seems like JWB and
>his continuing sniveling
>cowardice will continue.
>Pathetic.

Danny Boy's favorite phrase is "sniveling coward(ice)".

Look he uses the word "pathetic" again! What a surprise!

Danny Boy is neither the sharpest knife in the drawer or the most articulate lawyer/"person".

I don't understand how Danny Boy intimidates anyone.

We will hear no answers to our simple questions from Danny Boy.

DBS replies: It's very simple JWB, I give you my word that I will address any question you may have; no matter how scurilous scatological or emabarrssing to me it may be. I'll even do it in this forum. All you have to do is tell me your name, and allow me to verify it. What do you say? Want to assume the same risk I have and use your name? Or are you too afraid?

 
At 9:25 PM, Blogger jewishwhistleblower said...

>DBS replies: It's very simple
>JWB, I give you my word that I
>will address any question you
>may have; no matter how
>scurilous scatological or
>emabarrssing to me it may be.
>I'll even do it in this forum.
>All you have to do is tell me
>your name, and allow me to
>verify it. What do you say? Want
>to assume the same risk I have
>and use your name? Or are you
>too afraid?

Afraid? You're the one who has yet to answer ONE question posted here.

I clearly understand the only thing you want is my name for purposes that are fairly obvious given the conduct of RMT enablers/supporters with regard to victims and their supporters.

Afraid? Nope.
Stupid? Nope.

I'm not afraid to discuss and allow others on both sides to post. You haven't demonstrated any willingness to discuss or address these issues. You just use the same abusive phrases and demand my name.

Still no answers from Danny Boy.

 
At 10:51 AM, Blogger Daniel B. Schwartz said...

At 9:25 PM, jewishwhistleblower said...
>DBS replies: It's very simple
>JWB, I give you my word that I
>will address any question you
>may have; no matter how
>scurilous scatological or
>emabarrssing to me it may be.
>I'll even do it in this forum.
>All you have to do is tell me
>your name, and allow me to
>verify it. What do you say? Want
>to assume the same risk I have
>and use your name? Or are you
>too afraid?

Afraid? You're the one who has yet to answer ONE question posted here.

I clearly understand the only thing you want is my name for purposes that are fairly obvious given the conduct of RMT enablers/supporters with regard to victims and their supporters.

Afraid? Nope.
Stupid? Nope.

I'm not afraid to discuss and allow others on both sides to post. You haven't demonstrated any willingness to discuss or address these issues. You just use the same abusive phrases and demand my name.

Still no answers from Danny Boy.

DBA replies: Blah blah blah. this is so boring at this point. I've myself clear. I'll discuss anything with anybody in an open fashion with an interlocutor I can identify. If anyone is interested, let me know. I will not be posting any more. I will however monitor this blog in my client's (KNH's) interest.

 
At 1:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

DBS's excuse for not responding to issues is pathetic. Why does he neeed a name to address an issue? One more of his infamous red herrings (he has a putrid lake full!)
There is every reason for bloggers to be anonymous- Tendler is known far and wide to be vindictive and dangerous. He and his cronies have done enough harm.
The very fact that he (and his supportors) is such a threat to anyone who critiques him is enough reason to say he needs to go!

 
At 2:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

>DBS's excuse for not responding >o issues is pathetic. Why does he >eeed a name to address an issue? >One more of his infamous red >herrings (he has a putrid lake >full!)

I think he wants a name to see if anyone has the courage to stand behind his/her position. Staying anonymous is easy. It's easy to talk tough if noone knows who you are. It's easy to slander a rav if no one knows your name. Schwartz probably wants to see who out there is a real adversary and who is just a little punk talking tough.

>There is every reason for >bloggers to be anonymous- Tendler >is known far and wide to be >vindictive and dangerous. He and >his cronies have done enough >harm.

What evidence is there for that? Who has Rabbi Tendler ever intimidated?

>The very fact that he (and his >supportors) is such a threat to >anyone who critiques him is >enough reason to say he needs to >go!

Now that the poster set up the flase argument, he uses it as a basis for his conclusions.

 
At 6:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tendler

A member of the International Boxing Hall of Fame, Tendler is widely regarded as one of the greatest fighters who never won a world title. Called by Nat Fleischer, "the greatest southpaw (left-hander) in ring history," Tendler had the misfortune of fighting in the same era, and weight class, as legendary champion Benny Leonard. He fought three times for a world title, and against seven world champions during his career.

Birth and Death Dates:
b. September 28, 1898 - d. November 7, 1970

Career Highlights:
The son of Russian immigrants, Tendler was born in Philadelphia, and began fighting as a teenager when he was a newspaper boy trying to preserve his territory. In 1913, he was paid to step into the ring for the first time, facing veteran Mickey Brown in a six-round no decision. After winning his next fight on a fourth-round knockout, 37 of his next 39 fights ended in no decisions; at the time, decisions were banned by lawmakers with the intent that no decisions would eliminate corrupt judges and referees. In the late 1910s and early 1920s, Tendler moved up the ranks in the lightweight division, losing only twice while fighting 15-20 bouts per year. In May 1922, Tendler won the most important bout of his career, earning a 15-round decision over Hall of Famer Johnny Dundee (the no decision law was repealed in 1920). This earned him a match with the greatest lightweight champion of them all, Benny Leonard.
In July, these two fighters faced each other for Leonard's lightweight title. Tendler knocked Leonard to the canvas in the 8th round, but the champ recovered and distracted the younger fighter by talking to him in an uncomplimentary manner (Benny claimed it was a low blow). Instead of pressing his advantage, Tendler responded; and as the two exchanged words, Tendler lost his opportunity, and Leonard had time to recover. Tendler attacked Leonard furiously, but the bout ended in a no decision. The New Jersey (where the bout took place) "no decision" law stated that a champion could only lose a title by knockout, so Tendler left empty-handed. The fight caused great interest in a re-match, which was staged in 1923. In the second fight, witnessed by 60,000 people at Yankee Stadium (it was the Stadium's first title match), Leonard had learned from the first bout, and easily won a 15-round decision. Most experts agree that Tendler would have been lightweight champion in any era but Leonard's.

After the second Leonard fight, Tendler moved up from lightweight to welterweight, and in 1924 lost a championship fight to Mickey Walker in a 10-round decision. Manager Jack Kearns, whose fighters included Jack Dempsey and Archie Moore, said: "I wish that someone would drive up this minute and drop me off a carload of Lew Tendlers. I'd lick the whole world." He continued to fight until 1928, but did not receive another title shot. After retiring from the ring, Tendler spoke around the country about his career and opened a popular restaurant in Philadelphia called "Lew Tendler's" (he later opened a second restaurant in Atlantic City).

A member of the International Jewish Sports Hall of Fame and the Philadelphia Jewish Sports Hall of Fame, Tendler was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 1999.

Origin:
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Career Statistics:
Professional record:
Wins: 59 (37 by knockout)
Losses: 11
Draws: 2
No decisions: 94
No contests: 1

 

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