Thursday, March 24, 2005

Kehilat New Hempstead public mtg Sunday 8 PM, 720 Union Road, New Hempstead, NY, Rabbi Mordechai Tendler expected to attend and address RCA expulsion.

8 Comments:

At 11:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The meeting is technically not publis since it is a membership meeting. Notifying the news authorities is a great way to put further pressure on Tendler and to convince any hold outs that the issue will not pass and that Tendler must go. As far as I know, the NY TIMES, Journal News, and FOX 5, were already notified and might show up. They were very interested in the events and info was sent to them.

 
At 10:54 PM, Anonymous SilencedWhistle said...

JWB has lost all credibility due to his flaming rhetoric on the posts below claiming personal knowledge of the Tendler/Feinstein family "not supporting" Rabbi Mordechai Tendler. After R' Dovid Feinstein's appearence and speech tonight, JWB's credibility is up in smoke. The flames and smoke should serve to help JWB adapt to his future after 120. Interestingly enough, the whole "KNH MEETING" thread, with all of its posts supporting Rabbi Mordechai Tendler, has been closed and those posts deleted. JWB can dish it out, but JWB CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! (to misquote a nameless actor)


At 10:58 PM, jewishwhistleblower said...
>If so, what would happen if 5 or
>6 other rabbis would be willing
>to sign their names to support

Why don't you get a support letter signed by those who know him best, like his relatives, Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven?

Oh, that's right, they KNOW what a rasha Rabbi Mordechai Tendler is.

At 11:54 PM, jewishwhistleblower said...
Why don't you phone Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven directly and ask them if they are supporting Rabbi Mordechai Tendler and will personally vouch for his "good character"? You will be surprised. The lies you are believing are just that ... lies.

Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven are helping Rabbi Mordechai Tendler? Are you high? What flavor is your koolaide?

At 6:30 AM, jewishwhistleblower said...
You're missing my main point. Prominant members of his family like Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven KNOW he's pond scum.

The people here defending him, don't know him anywhere as long or as well. Maybe they should speak to Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven before defending him further.

At 7:03 AM, jewishwhistleblower said...
>do you know for sure that they
>think "he is pond scum".

Yes, and it would be easy for Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's followers to check the accuracy of my statements.

>let's say that they DO come out
>with something public in the
>future, now that it's getting
>really big, and till now they
>haven't, and only been observing
>and advising quietly, do you
>mean to tell me that you will
>believe them?

1) If you think that will happen or is happening, you're on crack.
2) They know him longer and better than others.

Not a matter of belief. Just the facts.
At 7:54 AM, jewishwhistleblower said...
>Feel free to correct me, but I
>think you're saying that if R
>Dovid and R Reuven did state
>their trust in and support of
>MT, you would retract everything
>you've said, maybe even ask for
>mechilla.

They have eyes, yet they do not see. They have ears and yet they do not hear.

If elephants had wings, they could fly?
At 11:45 AM, jewishwhistleblower said...
The people here defending Rabbi Mordechai Tendler, don't know him anywhere as long or as well. Maybe they should speak to Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven before defending him further and attacking others.


Not a matter of belief. Just the facts. Rabbi Mordechai Tendler is a Rasha, no one knows that better than people in his family.
They have no intention of supporting their rasha relative, unlike some of you." [endquote]
JWB has lost all credibility due to his flaming rhetoric on the posts above claiming personal knowledge of the Tendler/Feinstein family "not supporting" Rabbi Mordechai Tendler. After R' Dovid Feinstein's appearence and speech tonight, JWB's credibility is up in smoke. The flames and smoke should serve to help JWB adapt to his future after 120.

 
At 10:59 AM, Anonymous Gadi Pickholz, Beer Sheva Israel said...

I am intruiged at the "debate" over support for Rabbi Mordechai Tendler within the family. There are, kaneh horah, over 35 cousins and 6 uncles aside on the Tendler side alone. All are highly regarded professionals and leaders in their respesctive Kehillot from Los Angeles to Jerusalem; almost all are Rabbanim in practice as well.

No one, to my knowledge, has ever contacted any of us to ask our opinion on Mordechai and the accusations and events unfolding in Monsey. Both sides of the discussion lack all credibility in this matter, and have likely avoided the obvious solution of picking up the phone and asking us for our opinions and comments after this weekend's events.

My own personal comment would be that my prayers go out to Mordechai and Michelle in these troubling times, but none of us have any better information of the events than the Presidium investigation. I believe the investigation was flawed and based on heresey, but I agree that the accusing women were hounded by nothing short of Rabbinic thuggery to keep quiet, as was the case in the NCSY scandal last year involving, in large measure, the same Rabbinic leadership.

Mordechai's innocence or guilt will never be established. At a minimum, he is clearly guilty of a lack of discretion and professionalism requisite to the public trust he holds as a pulpit Rabbi. As a spiritual leader or Rav in any creadible Rabbinic program such as Yeshiva University, he can no longer function effectively. If the accusations are false, that would be heinous, but does not alter the reality of his present lack of effectiveness going forward.

The events of the past few days, involving "political consultants" and my uncle, Moishe Tendler, putting on a virtual candidate campaign complete with supporter rallies, goes far beyond the borders of poor taste and judgment. They underscore the core purpose of the Big Business Rabbinate that Moishe and Mordechai embody with every fiber of their DNA, and the significant wealth that both Mordechai and Moishe have garnered from the unquestioning admirers in a trance of Rabbinic adulation in their Kehillot by becoming Charismatic Clergy money machines interchangable with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. It is that Big Business aspect of the present farce, particularly thr Big Business of advising/comforting/supporting the aguna/orthodox feminist lobby in America today, that is most distasteful of all. Rabbinics aside, Mordechai has secured significant wealth in building his kehilla via his wife Michelle's earnings as a major realtor in the developing community. Similarly, he had started a similar new community here in suburban Jerusalem -- realty proceeds in large measure going to wife Michelle once again by unquestioning and adoring lambs seeking to annoint any Moral Authority and Hero. This Big Business mutation of the Rabbinate has always been a dangerous path historically in Judaism; Mordechai is simply the latest to stumble.

In the interests of the Torah True Rabbinate, to paraphrase my grandfather Rabbi Isaac Tendler of blessed memory, Mordechai and Moishe should have ended the sordid public farce in this matter long ago, before Mordechai was inevitably twisting in the wind. The damage to the community vastly exceeds the interests of one Rabbi, even a dear cousin.

It is important to note that without exception no other Rabbi in the entire Tendler clan, with the possible exception of Moishe's other son Aharon in WEst Hollywood, followed Moishe and Mordechai's lead in styling their professional personna and Rabbinic identities. Both of my other Tendler uncles, Moishe's brothers, could not have distance themselves further from the professional model developed by Moishe and Mordechai.

Therein lies the true answer of the family's perspective on the entire sordid affair -- to a man, every other Rabbi in the family rejected the Charismatic Clergy money machine model, precisely out of concern that somewhere in future risks such as those now bringing down both my uncle and cousin in Monsey were inevitable.

 
At 10:59 AM, Anonymous Gadi Pickholz, Beer Sheva Israel said...

I am intruiged at the "debate" over support for Rabbi Mordechai Tendler within the family. There are, kaneh horah, over 35 cousins and 6 uncles aside on the Tendler side alone. All are highly regarded professionals and leaders in their respesctive Kehillot from Los Angeles to Jerusalem; almost all are Rabbanim in practice as well.

No one, to my knowledge, has ever contacted any of us to ask our opinion on Mordechai and the accusations and events unfolding in Monsey. Both sides of the discussion lack all credibility in this matter, and have likely avoided the obvious solution of picking up the phone and asking us for our opinions and comments after this weekend's events.

My own personal comment would be that my prayers go out to Mordechai and Michelle in these troubling times, but none of us have any better information of the events than the Presidium investigation. I believe the investigation was flawed and based on heresey, but I agree that the accusing women were hounded by nothing short of Rabbinic thuggery to keep quiet, as was the case in the NCSY scandal last year involving, in large measure, the same Rabbinic leadership.

Mordechai's innocence or guilt will never be established. At a minimum, he is clearly guilty of a lack of discretion and professionalism requisite to the public trust he holds as a pulpit Rabbi. As a spiritual leader or Rav in any creadible Rabbinic program such as Yeshiva University, he can no longer function effectively. If the accusations are false, that would be heinous, but does not alter the reality of his present lack of effectiveness going forward.

The events of the past few days, involving "political consultants" and my uncle, Moishe Tendler, putting on a virtual candidate campaign complete with supporter rallies, goes far beyond the borders of poor taste and judgment. They underscore the core purpose of the Big Business Rabbinate that Moishe and Mordechai embody with every fiber of their DNA, and the significant wealth that both Mordechai and Moishe have garnered from the unquestioning admirers in a trance of Rabbinic adulation in their Kehillot by becoming Charismatic Clergy money machines interchangable with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. It is that Big Business aspect of the present farce, particularly thr Big Business of advising/comforting/supporting the aguna/orthodox feminist lobby in America today, that is most distasteful of all. Rabbinics aside, Mordechai has secured significant wealth in building his kehilla via his wife Michelle's earnings as a major realtor in the developing community. Similarly, he had started a similar new community here in suburban Jerusalem -- realty proceeds in large measure going to wife Michelle once again by unquestioning and adoring lambs seeking to annoint any Moral Authority and Hero. This Big Business mutation of the Rabbinate has always been a dangerous path historically in Judaism; Mordechai is simply the latest to stumble.

In the interests of the Torah True Rabbinate, to paraphrase my grandfather Rabbi Isaac Tendler of blessed memory, Mordechai and Moishe should have ended the sordid public farce in this matter long ago, before Mordechai was inevitably twisting in the wind. The damage to the community vastly exceeds the interests of one Rabbi, even a dear cousin.

It is important to note that without exception no other Rabbi in the entire Tendler clan, with the possible exception of Moishe's other son Aharon in WEst Hollywood, followed Moishe and Mordechai's lead in styling their professional personna and Rabbinic identities. Both of my other Tendler uncles, Moishe's brothers, could not have distance themselves further from the professional model developed by Moishe and Mordechai.

Therein lies the true answer of the family's perspective on the entire sordid affair -- to a man, every other Rabbi in the family rejected the Charismatic Clergy money machine model, precisely out of concern that somewhere in future risks such as those now bringing down both my uncle and cousin in Monsey were inevitable.

 
At 11:00 AM, Anonymous Gadi Pickholz, Beer Sheva Israel said...

I am intruiged at the "debate" over support for Rabbi Mordechai Tendler within the family. There are, kaneh horah, over 35 cousins and 6 uncles aside on the Tendler side alone. All are highly regarded professionals and leaders in their respesctive Kehillot from Los Angeles to Jerusalem; almost all are Rabbanim in practice as well.

No one, to my knowledge, has ever contacted any of us to ask our opinion on Mordechai and the accusations and events unfolding in Monsey. Both sides of the discussion lack all credibility in this matter, and have likely avoided the obvious solution of picking up the phone and asking us for our opinions and comments after this weekend's events.

My own personal comment would be that my prayers go out to Mordechai and Michelle in these troubling times, but none of us have any better information of the events than the Presidium investigation. I believe the investigation was flawed and based on heresey, but I agree that the accusing women were hounded by nothing short of Rabbinic thuggery to keep quiet, as was the case in the NCSY scandal last year involving, in large measure, the same Rabbinic leadership.

Mordechai's innocence or guilt will never be established. At a minimum, he is clearly guilty of a lack of discretion and professionalism requisite to the public trust he holds as a pulpit Rabbi. As a spiritual leader or Rav in any creadible Rabbinic program such as Yeshiva University, he can no longer function effectively. If the accusations are false, that would be heinous, but does not alter the reality of his present lack of effectiveness going forward.

The events of the past few days, involving "political consultants" and my uncle, Moishe Tendler, putting on a virtual candidate campaign complete with supporter rallies, goes far beyond the borders of poor taste and judgment. They underscore the core purpose of the Big Business Rabbinate that Moishe and Mordechai embody with every fiber of their DNA, and the significant wealth that both Mordechai and Moishe have garnered from the unquestioning admirers in a trance of Rabbinic adulation in their Kehillot by becoming Charismatic Clergy money machines interchangable with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. It is that Big Business aspect of the present farce, particularly thr Big Business of advising/comforting/supporting the aguna/orthodox feminist lobby in America today, that is most distasteful of all. Rabbinics aside, Mordechai has secured significant wealth in building his kehilla via his wife Michelle's earnings as a major realtor in the developing community. Similarly, he had started a similar new community here in suburban Jerusalem -- realty proceeds in large measure going to wife Michelle once again by unquestioning and adoring lambs seeking to annoint any Moral Authority and Hero. This Big Business mutation of the Rabbinate has always been a dangerous path historically in Judaism; Mordechai is simply the latest to stumble.

In the interests of the Torah True Rabbinate, to paraphrase my grandfather Rabbi Isaac Tendler of blessed memory, Mordechai and Moishe should have ended the sordid public farce in this matter long ago, before Mordechai was inevitably twisting in the wind. The damage to the community vastly exceeds the interests of one Rabbi, even a dear cousin.

It is important to note that without exception no other Rabbi in the entire Tendler clan, with the possible exception of Moishe's other son Aharon in WEst Hollywood, followed Moishe and Mordechai's lead in styling their professional personna and Rabbinic identities. Both of my other Tendler uncles, Moishe's brothers, could not have distance themselves further from the professional model developed by Moishe and Mordechai.

Therein lies the true answer of the family's perspective on the entire sordid affair -- to a man, every other Rabbi in the family rejected the Charismatic Clergy money machine model, precisely out of concern that somewhere in future risks such as those now bringing down both my uncle and cousin in Monsey were inevitable.

 
At 7:14 PM, Anonymous R2D said...

ta-DAH!
Like Clark Kent in a phone booth.

 
At 12:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mikarave the Music
Jewify the lyrics of your favorite songs

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Hotel Passover




Choose a Song
Mikarave Home

Lyrics Avri J. Balofsky



Hotel California
Eagles
Walking in Memphis
Marc cohn

The Hannukah Song
Adam Sandler

I Love this Bar
Toby Keith

Hey Ya
OUTKAST

the hannukah song
Sandler

Sound of the Silence
Simon and Garfunkel

My Name Is?
Eminem

Buddy Holly
Weezer

Iris
Goo Goo Dolls

Jesse's Girl
Rick Springfield

Ignition Remix
R. Kelly

Uptown Girl
Billy Joel

The Anthem
good charlotte

How you Remind Me
Nickleback

Stacey's Mom
Fountains of Wayne

Billie Jean
Michael Jackson

Baby got Tznuis
Sir Mix-a-lot


Smells like Shabbaton Spirit
Nirvana

Loose Yourself
Eminem


My Friends Over You
New Found Glory

Movin' Out
Billy Joel

Tangled up in Blue
Bob Dylan

The Longest Time
Billy Joel

Gangster's Paradise
Coolio

Basketcase
green day

The Thong Song
Sisqo

Walk on the Wild Side
Lou Reed

Why Can't We Be Friends
WAR (1975)

Hit Me Baby One more Time
Britney Spears

Landslide
Smashing Pumpkins

Star
Smashmouth

Summer Lovin
Grease

American Pie
Don MacLean

Sk8ter boi or
Ch8er Boi
Avril Lavigne

Complicated
Avril Lavigne

Loose Yourself
Eminem

Free Falling
Tom Petty

Slim Shady
Eminem




based on "Hotel California"

On the Sinai Desert Highway
Warm wind at my lips,
I look back and remember,
how we left Egypt

And now all around me,
I saw such wonderous sights,
a cloud guiding us by day,
and a pillar of fire at night.

There was blood on the doorway,
when down came Hashem,
Killed all the Egyption first borns,
so we could be free men.

Then Moshe picked up his staff,
and he showed us the way,
As he took us out in the middle of the night,
we heard a Bas Kol say...

You're going to Ma'amat Har Sinai
Such a Holy place,
In God's embrace.
Gettin' the Torah at Ma'amat Har Sinai
Where the nation will be,
One whole family.


When we got to the Red Sea
Depression set in,
Moshe said,
I did not take you to this place,
just to die my friend.

Then he lifted his arms,
and he parted the Sea,
We crossed over to the other side,
where we would all be free.

How many Makot were there?
We could barely keep counts,
As the Egyptions they all died,
Soldiers upon their mounts.

Then Moshe went up so faaaaaaaaaaar away,
Brought down the luchot in middle of the night,
And you'd hear him say.

Welcome to Ma'amat Har Sinai
The Laws are strict
By God's edict
Living in awe at Ma'amat Har Sinai
Where the golden calf
Was broke in half


Now I sit at the seder,
a pillow upon my seat, -- and I thought,
I wonder how long maggid will take,
Until we get to eat.

And at the _____'s table (Fill in where you are that night)
We gather for the feast
Remembering slavery with our bitter herbs
And our bread that has no yeast!

Last thing I remember
We were headed for the door
Hoping we'd find Eliyahu who'd bring,
us back to days of yore

Moshiach is coming
we are commanded to believe
We'll all be returned to Eretz Yisrael
Where we will never leave

 
At 9:06 PM, Anonymous Avri Balofsky said...

Just Googled myself and found my song posted here. Hi! =]

 

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