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Hat tip to Canonist and to anonymous comment.http://www.canonist.com/archives/2005/03/rabbi_mordechai.html#commentshttp://www.forward.com/main/article.php?ref=200503181135Rabbi Expelled From RCABy Forward StaffMarch 18, 2005The largest union of Orthodox rabbis has expelled one of its members from the organization, Rabbi Mordecai Tendler, following an investigation into allegations of sexual harassment made by several women.In a statement announcing its decision, the Rabbinical Council of America said that Tendler "has refused to cooperate with the [organization] in its investigation, and has refused to appear at a hearing.” The RCA also stated that Tendler had "engaged in conduct inapporopriate for an Orthodox rabbi.”"Therefore,” the statement declared, "Rabbi Mordecai Tendler has been expelled from the RCA.”The action took effect immediately, according to the RCA employee who shared the statement with the Forward.In a statement, Tendler’s spokesman, political consultant Hank Sheinkopf, declared: "The charges against Rabbi Tendler are baseless and there is nothing in the RCA proceedings, findings or in its letter that substantiates any charges of misconduct.”Sheinkopf said that "the RCA proceedings against Rabbi Mordecai Tendler have been reminiscent of the Salem Witch Trials.”"A respected community leader has been subjected to baseless allegations and was summarily denied any opportunity to confront his accusers,” Sheinkopf said, adding that "the flawed process succeeded in nothing but in smearing a beloved man.”"Just as the RCA failed to protect defenseless children from [convicted sex abuser] Rabbi Lanner, now they are failing to protect the rights of one of its most prominent leaders,” Sheinkopf said. Lanner had been a top leader at the National Council of Synagogue Youth, the youth group run by the Orthodox Union.Tendler, the scion of a prominent rabbinic family, is the son of Yeshiva University Professor Rabbi Moshe Tendler, a leading Orthodox expert on bioethical issues, and a grandson of the late Rabbi Moshe Feinstein, the Orthodox world’s most respected religious arbiter for much of the 20th century.A respected authority on his grandfather’s writings and a part-time instructor at Y.U., Tendler also has emerged as a leading defender of the increasingly beleaguered Modern Orthodox community of Monsey, N.Y., in its communal turf struggles against the dominant ultra-Orthodox majority.Tendler is the founder and religious leader of Kehillat New Hempstead, a Modern Orthodox congregation near Monsey. During his tenure there, he has earned praise from Orthodox feminist leaders for his open-minded approach to women’s issues. He composed a popular prayer on behalf of agunot, or women who have been unable to secure a religious divorce decree from their husbands.
I have been very critical of the RCA in the past and they have deserved that criticism. It is clear that the Rabbi Mordechai Tendler investigation dragged on too long and that serious mistakes were made.But make no mistake, this clear and public action by the RCA is to be applauded and supported.The RCA officially takes a leap forward in dealing with sexual predators in the Orthodox world through their actions this week.I expect that lessons will be learned from the last 15+ months and hopefully future investigations will be better as a result.This is the most significant post-Lanner action taken in the Orthodox world and perhaps the first indication that things may well be improving.This post goes back to the 1st post on this blog 4 months ago:http://jewishwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2004/12/another-white-wash-by-rca.html#commentsAnother White Wash by the RCA? Now we can finally answer that question with a resounding NO.hatov v’hamaitiv
Mazel Tov to the RCA for doing what they should have done months ago. My hope is they will put this up on their web page, and keep a running list of all individuals they booted out of their organization (i.e. Ephraim Bryks).This is a great first move, but the problem is that he still has smicha. Which means he still can lure in more victims.
They are removing him for his lack of cooperation with the investigation, NOT for sexual misconduct.RMT can continue to claim that he is innocent. The RCA can continue to say it does not know.While it is a step in the right direction, it does not necessarily mean the RCA has or will correctly deal with allegations of rabbinic abuse.
The report shows no backbone on the part of the RCA. The RCA is purposeless and fails in its mission. Tendler got off easy. What a waste of time. The survivors of Tendler's manipulative actions and abuse should be fuming with anger. How long will this injustice continue. Hopefully one of his victims will finally sue him. Kehillat New Hempstead is already hurting badly and can no longer pay its bills. The shul is self distructing as a result of his actions. Any other shul would have thrown out their Rabbi months ago or a least suspended him but nothing has been done. Stop davening a KNH. Protest the injustice. Why would you want a Rabbi to serve in this capacity under such a cloud of embarrasment and shame. May Hashem Yisborach continue to bless poor Michelle and her children.
I have an insider contact that tells me that KNH does not have financial problems at all. She said that in addition to general membership dues/donations they receive sizable rent money from renting the shul's classrooms to a high school yeshiva for the last several years ($50k per year in rent money).I'll ask her about your assertion that KNH is "self destructing".
I agree that in the end nless actual charges or a lawsuit is filed, KNH will do nothing to get rid of MT. Anyone familiar with the shul will tell you that there is no one davening there anymore. There is hardly a minyon, no one attends any shul sponsored events, and no one is donating money. The yeshiva that is in the shul has approvlas and is building a new building next door. The yeshiva owes the shul several months rent. While there are still a handful of his shick yingels in the shul(dedicated chasidim) no one takes MT seriously anymore. Tendler receives upwards of 100K in salary and personal bills paid. Besides the yesiva, there is no "real" income coming in. The mikvah has also stopped as has KNH's plans for expansion. No expansion will take place anymore especially since the other competing shul is building a huge building 1000 feet down the road. Everyone needs to wake up and realize that the only thing that will save KNH is MT's resignation or termination. Lets be real about the case. One, maybe two unstable women filing charges, but 9 -10 saying the same thing. Please, you have to an idiot not to believe the allegations. Everyone saw MT hanging out in shul alone with these women. Everyone has seen MT driving alone with these women. Everyone knows these women were in his house alone at times. People will continue to move out of the neighborhood or simply daven elsewhere until something is done. Rumors abound about a internal coup at KNH to start proceedings to have MT removed.
I find it hard to understand how no one is commenting about the plight of the Tendler survivors. They are the real issue here not MT. Everyone knew he would simply get a slap on the wrist. The RCA is nothing but a rubber stamp organization. MT is on the Bais Din of the Vaad HaRabbonim of Monsey, he is involved in the Chevra Kadisha, Kashrus issues. Is anything going to be done to have him expelled from these organizations or is this type of "misconduct" not serious enough to have his smicha revoked or him being thrown off of the Vaad HaRabbonim of Monsey. Who could possibly want him sitting in on a Bais Din involving a divorce or any case at all. This is utterly ridiculous. The survivors have waited for months for this decision and all the RCA could say was he is out because he didn;t cooperate ?? This is crazy. I have lost all faith in the jewish religion and its procedures. I am shocked and dismayed over this whole proceeding and course of events.
I agree with most of the above comments. This whole 15 month process has demonstrated how ill-equiped our leadership is to deal with sexual predators like Rabbi Mordechai Tendler.The treatment of his victims and the lack of resources or legal representation underscores the need to address victim advocacy in the Orthodox community.Our rabbinical leaders simply lack the training or understanding to deal with these situations.The silence of the agunot leadership and their protection of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler over the past years, underscores the need for new leadership and advocacy organizations. It is no wonder why there are more agunot today then ever before.I agree with all that the victims here were utterly failed and betrayed by those they turned to at the RCA.My praise of the RCA however stands. As bad as this whole process has been, it is a clear step forward that the RCA publicly expelled Tendler rather than quietly letting him resign. A small step, but a very significant step.I'm told that there have been a half dozen or so cases in the history of the RCA (some still ongoing) in which such sexual predators have been investigated. Up to this point all were dealt with very quiently and with resignations.In the case of Rabbi Ephraim Bryks, there were complaints and attempts to have the RCA act going back to the 80's. It is only recently that the RCA has stopped taking the attitude that it has no responsibility in such cases. I'm told that with Bryks, that the process of getting him to resign took several years and at the time, such a quiet resignation was a huge step forward.By the way, Bryks like Rabbi Mordechai Tendler was very active in the agunot movement and in fact still works counselling agunot.Like I said, it's time to re-evaluate our leadership.see:http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/Bryks_Ephraim.htmland news video:http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/offender/brykslq.rm
> Anyone familiar with the shul > will tell you that there is no one > davening there anymoreCompletely untrue. This week KNH had at least 40 ppl Friday night. The early Shabbat AM minyan had 40+ ppl this week and over 60 ppl last week. I don't go to KNH every week, but whenever I am there the number of people is generally close to these numbers.> The mikvah has also stoppedThe foundation was laid and underground plumbing was finished in December before the ground froze. Construction stopped because of the winter. I assume that it will resume in the spring. Besides, the mikvah is being financed and built by the Mikvah Vaad of New Square and has little to do with Tendler or KNH anymore.> No expansion will take place > anymore especially since the other> competing shul is building a huge > building 1000 feet down the road.If you know anything about that shul then you'd know that they are a LONG way from having the money to build, and their building plan has WAY less total square feel than Tendler's shul due to zoning laws and lack of money.> "Everyone saw..."> "Everyone has seen..."> "Everyone knows..."Well, certainly not "everyone" - since many people still do not believe the allegations.>Rumors abound about a internal coup> at KNH to start proceedings to > have MT removed.Highly unlikely.
The KNH community firmly stands behind Rav Tendler. The shul is neither faltering nor is there any discussion of removing Rav Tendler. In fact, Rav Tendler is the shul, and is the main reason that people go to KNH. At least 95% of people who attend KNH live closer to other shuls but choose to walk farther to go to KNH due to the Rav and the warm kehilla that he leads.There are two former members of KNH who seem to enjoy spreading lies about the Rav. (I won't name names, but let's call them Shifra and Puah.) Eventually their lies will backfire on them if/when the community chooses to respond to their actions.
Can you run a list of other blogs/websites that expose this stuff in our community? it would be a real help
The ignorance of the above comment is exactly why nothing will be done to Tendler by the KNH Board of Chassidim. Just to clarify, 40+ people campared to what was once alomst double isn't exactly a thriving shul. Furthermore, the first minyon on shabbos has more people attending than the regular minyon where MT presides. Notice the last commentary did not respond to the lack of funds, lack of attendance at functions, or the failure of the mikvah project which needed to be taken out of the hands of KNH because no other shul would participate if MT of NH was involved. MT has no connection anymore to the mikvah being built on KNH property. The people who do not believe the allegations are the ones that were not there 10-12 years ago when it all began. They have only seen a handful of women who made these allegations. They were not around for at least half of the others. Several members have already met to discuss actions against the Board and MT. A letter is being prepared by members to be sent out to membership that will seek support to call for his. They can no longer stand to see the shul being destroyed by his presence. There will be an upcoming boycott of the shul on a shabbos in the near future to protest the lack of response and action of the Board of Chassidim at KNH. People no longer ask him to name babies, officiate at weddings, or even provide letters of recommendation to for their children. The entire jewish population from NY to Hong Kong know of the problems. People I travel with on business still can't believe he wasn't fired from his position at KNH. The worst part of this is that he is still councelling people. Can you believe that. There must be some way to have this stopped. People laugh when they hear you daven at Tendler's Shul. This is unfortunate and has destroyed years of hard work and toil to build up a Shul and community. Tendler has destroyed individuals lives, the lives of his own families and the community. Shame on him. Get rid of him now. Pay him off to leave, like he pays off people to keep quiet. He is a master at deception, just learn to play by the same rules as he is accostomed to. Thank you Jewishwhistleblower for this blog. May Hashem continue to grant you the strength to continue your good work.
The only services that Shifra and Puah are accomplishing is to attempt to stop the Haman of KNH. Membership is down, bills are not being paid, people daven at other minyons. While it could definitely be said at one time that people either moved to NH or daven at KNH because of MT of NH, the fact is that these are the people who lost confidence in him and have moved away. 95% of the new members had no connection whatsoever to Tendler and moved for other reasons. The new members are the ones that are trying to save the shul from the old guard of Tendler Chassidim. You know EL, YT, SR, and others who will bend over backwards to protect his behind. The shick yingels of KNH. They will not succeed. They minority of the Board are the ones who "stand firmly behind" MT. No one else does. As a matter of fact Tendler was critical in influencing who was going to run for the Board this past election. No one wanted to run except for the President. Somehow MT has a stranglehold over him, who knows why.
Maybe the members of KNH should get thier own private blog to air their issues. Lets continue to keep focus on the issue at hand. The injustice to the women who have endured physical and mental emotional strain and abuse. They are the ones who should have been protected from this evil man. We have done nothing for them. We suceeded in protecting the criminal and not the victims. It is truly a sad day for klal yisroel that this man continues to be allowed to keep his Rabbinic positions, whether it be at his shul, at YU, or as a member of the Vaad of Monsey.
One of the posters above needs to gets their facts straight. First they posted that no one goes to MT's shul anymore and then later acknowledged that 40+ people attend on Friday night.
Posting names of victims or witnesses (from RCA proceedings) in attacks will not be tolerated. Particularly, when your naming them is pure speculation not based on fact. I am reposting the earlier removed comment with names removed. I won't necessarily re-post in the future. Make your point without naming people who's names are NOT public knowledge.At 8:27 AM, Anonymous said... Here are the facts:1) KNH does not have financial problems. I figure that income from the yeshiva rent alone is close to $250,000 in the last 5 years. And, KNH has very little financial overhead to begin with.2) Yes, KNH used to have more members, but that was before 3 other shuls were built in New Hempstead and some people chose to daven closer to home (especially in the winter). KNH is still one of the largest shuls in NH and has one of the highest attendance of any shul. Anyone who doubts this should simply come to the shul on any Shabbos.3) The mikvah was not "taken" from MT or KNH. Based on a compromise agreement with the Mikvah Vaad, KNH donated the land and paid all the architecture and engineering costs and the Vaad is paying for the construction based on their existing monopoly on mikvaos in greater Monsey.4) The shul is not faltering and anyone interested in leaving knows where to "find the door". There are certainly plenty of other shuls for them to choose in New Hempstead.5) Anyone who thinks that Rav Tendler does not name babies or officiate at weddings does not spend much time at KNH. I was as several brissim where he was honored throughout 2004 (including sandak, kerias ha-shem, etc). I also know a family that is flying Rav Tendler across the country him to be mesader kiddushin for a big wedding this month.Those who choose to contractdict the above are welcomed to support their assertions with some actual facts, rather than [name removed] and [name removed] lies.
To get everyone back on topic:After a 15 month investigation that included numerous serious allegations and outside investigators, Rabbi Mordechai Tendler was expelled from the RCA.He was not found innocent as his supporters have claimed the outcome would be.I suggest Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's supporters take a long hard look at themselves and their behavior in this matter. They should start to question why Tendler's relatives on the Feinstein side have no intention of supporting him in this matter publicly or privately.Wake up and smell the coffe! You're supporting a Rasha.
> Make your point without naming people who's names are NOT public knowledge... Particularly, when your naming them is pure speculation not based on fact.I agree with the previous poster. Both of those individuals's names ARE very much "public knowledge" in Monsey for their various antics. This has nothing to do with speculation. Those two individuals publicly slander MT to anyone who will listen (that's a public fact, not speculation). Look in the mirror JWB. Your one-sided bias is showing.
>I agree with the previous >poster. Both of those >individuals's names ARE very >much "public knowledge" in >Monsey for their various antics. They are not public knowledge outside Monsey or outside a select group of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler enablers and supporters, who seem to want to name others here but not themselves.
if the alleged victims believe that tendler is guilty, why haven't they sued him in court? jwb even claims elsewhere on this site that tendler committed rape. why aren't the police involved?
>if the alleged victims believe >that tendler is guilty, why >haven't they sued him in court? I believe they should. I believe they should sue Tendler, KNH, the RCA and others involved. I understand that because of the nature of the allegations, there is a desire to deal with things quietly. Obviously, the victims can now see the rabbanut and the RCA are incapable of doing so. The only way to protect future victims is to publicize what Tendler has been doing as widely as possible. People should be suing, talking to the press etc.I would note, one victim has settled with Tendler and was reported to have received $50-100k in settlement, signed a non-disclosure agreement and returned tape recordings.>jwb even claims elsewhere on >this site that tendler committed >rape.Not my claim, read again more carefully.>why aren't the police involved?Sexually exloiting agunot and women you counsel as a member of the clergy is not a criminal offense in NY as far as I understand.
>Answer: lack of evidence. >Otherwise, they would have sued >or arrested him long ago.1) Nonsense. Based on the Praesidium investigation and conclusion there certainly is sufficient evidence and testimony to get a civil judgement against Rabbi Mordechai Tendler. That's certainly why he has settled at least one case in the past.2) As to police, it is not clear to me that there are criminal issues here. That is for others who have the expertise in law to determine.3) I suggest you watch the 27 minute CBC news video linked below, it has similarities to this case (except for the child molestation aspects which are more relevant to the ongoing investigation of Rabbi Aron Tendler by the RCA and RCC): http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/offender/brykslq.rm
Let's put a list together of questions that Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's followers can't seem to answer:I'll start.1) Why so many women have come forward with the same allegations?2) Why has Rabbi Mordechai Tendler paid thousands to silence one alleged victim?3) Why did the RCA after a 15 month investigation kick Rabbi Mordechai Tendler out?4) Why is Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's brother Aron also under investigation?5) Why are none of the Feinsteins speaking out in support of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler? Why do Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven have no intention of supporting Rabbi Mordechai Tendler publicly or privately?
I don't know anything about this case at all. However, I've been following JWB's antics for over a year now, including cases I DO know about from the inside, and because of all that I've seen my natural inclination has become to believe anyone who disagrees with JWB. Now this may or may not be fair, but it just shows what happens when you have someone who is so over-the-top in their obsession with attacking and destroying people's reputations that they ruin the credibility of what may indeed be sincere victims of abuse.It's a sad situation...I wish there were more stable and believable people following these cases instead of the unholy trinity of JWB, Vicki Polin, and Luke Ford, who through their lack of restraint and fairness and their willingness to spread untruths, continue to undermine the important issues at hand. So the point is, whoever is here defending Tendler, I believe you.
>I don't know anything about this >case at all. However, I've been >following JWB's antics for over a >year now, including cases I DO know >about from the inside, and because >of all that I've seen my natural >inclination has become to believe >anyone who disagrees with JWB.>Now this may or may not be fair, >but it just shows what happens when >you have someone who is so >over-the-top in their obsession >with attacking and destroying >people's reputations that they ruin >the credibility of what may indeed >be sincere victims of abuse.I totally agree. JWB has a long history of exaggeration, lies, mis-information and half-truths. He will do anything to assisinate the character of any Jewish public figure.See the following thread from his own blog where JWB is repeatedly caught exaggerating "facts" and taking other people's words out of context to suit his own manical agenda:Link to JWB thread (click here)In that thread, someone challenges JWB on his so-called "facts" regarding the Tendler case, and JWB repeatedly refuses to support his accusations with proof. In fact, JWB's responses are quite comical and expose his inability to distinguish his conspiracy fantasies from actual facts and truth.
I too have seen JWB overtly lie and distort facts many times (or quote lies made by Luke Ford as if they were true). He is definitely his own worst enemy!
Be advised, if people want to use this forum to anonymously discuss the identities of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's "enemies" and print false allegations about them, I will consider allowing the other side to print a list of KNH attendees and finacial supporters.
As much as some of you dislike me there is no getting around the fact that in the past I called on the RCA to expell Rabbi Mordechai Tendler and that's exactly what they've done.Deal with it.I would note, I expect as a result of the expulsion, several major news reports detailing the allegations in the next week or 2. If not, I will post a list of the allegations as there is no longer an active RCA investigation that would be interferred with.
anonymous wrote:"It's a sad situation...I wish there were more stable and believable people following these cases instead of the unholy trinity of JWB, Vicki Polin, and Luke Ford, who through their lack of restraint and fairness and their willingness to spread untruths, continue to undermine the important issues at hand. So the point is, whoever is here defending Tendler, I believe you."That's certainly pretzel-logic.The 'unholy trinity' as you call them are doing a fantastic job; and I have seen JWB be quick to make corrections when wrong. What untruths have been spread, and if they were so, why not use your real name and stand behind them?
>Note to all JWB readers:>JWB is deleting posts from this >thread that he disagrees with.Incorrect, only those that name and identify Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's "enemies".>Of course, he'll deny it, but I>have several of them in my >browswer cache.No denial at all, I recommend that those named contact lawyers and suponea the IP adddresses of the posters and the new blog put up. It's clear libel.
JWB lies again. Pathetic.
JWB seems to think that naming individuals who openly and publicly attack MT is "libel". However, stating that Rav Tendler is a rapist (in another thread in this blog) is 100% truth and not libel whatsoever.Manic. It's sad, really.
>JWB seems to think that naming >individuals who openly and >publicly attack MT is "libel". Yes, several of the statements concerning them were clearly false.>However, stating that Rav >Tendler is a rapist (in another >thread in this blog) is 100% >truth and not libel whatsoever.Please re-read my post, that is not what I said. What I said reflected the Praesidium investigation results and is accurate.>Manic. It's sad, really. Yes you are.I would note the letters sent out regarding these issues reproduced at:http://lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/mordecai_tendler.htmNote, how Rabbi Tendler's lawyer had to withdraw 2 1/2 months after the letter he sent out. Why? Because the legal warning letter contained false information, just like many of the posts here from idiot supporters.
>Note, how Rabbi Tendler's lawyer had >to withdraw 2 1/2 months after the >letter he sent out. Why? Because the >legal warning letter contained false >informationYou really have no clue. Rabbi Tendler switched lawyers because his original lawyer MOVED. Stop trying to "manufacture facts" (which the rest of the world calls lies).
Idiot, he withdrew because this statement was false:As a side note, in response to the willful and harmful nature of your labors, Rabbi Tendler and/or Kehillat New Hempstead are in the process of coordinating with the county's District Attorney's office the filing of a criminal harassment complaint to prevent further felonious assaults.
Nothing was ever "coordinat[ed] with the county's District Attorney's office". Just another lie from another Rabbi Mordechai Tendler supporter.
>Rabbi Tendler switched lawyers >because his original lawyer >MOVED. Which is why the letter says "All communications should be directed to Rabbi Tendler and/or the Board of Directors of Kehillat New Hempstead." instead of saying to address it to his new lawyer?????You're as wrong as usual.
Notice how the Rabbi Mordechai Tendler supporters haven't addressed one of my questions directed to them?They're too busy attacking his "enemies".
> You're as wrong as usual.I know the lawyer personally. He moved, whether you choose to believe it or not. And, his expertise is not in these types of cases anyway, so the case was transferred to a lawyer more suited to this field.
Isn't the power of slanderous gossip amazing? How else can a known pornographer, (Luke Ford), and several mentally unstable women (the accusers), be given any serious consideration, if not for a juicy false story to become attached to?It's all very sad.
>I recommend that those named contact lawyers and suponea the IP adddresses of the posters and the new blog put up. It's clear libel.anonymouse.org
>Isn't the power of slanderous >gossip amazing? All true.>How else can a known >pornographer, (Luke Ford), and >several mentally unstable women >(the accusers), be given any >serious consideration, if not >for a juicy false story to >become attached to?All stable. I would also note, you should include the RCA, Forward, the Jewish Week and several dozen of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's former closest friends.>It's all very sad.Yes it is.
anonymous wrote:"Isn't the power of slanderous gossip amazing? How else can a known pornographer, (Luke Ford), and several mentally unstable women (the accusers), be given any serious consideration, if not for a juicy false story to become attached to?It's all very sad."Isn't the power of head-in-the-sandism amazing?Attacking the victims with 'mentally unstable' labels, yet, in your dedicated support for your precious rebbe you will not use your real name.Why not? Is there a tiny seed of doubt somewhere?What is 'support' worth if you're afraid to use your real name?Worried you might discover one day you are.....wrong?
"I recommend that those named contact lawyers and suponea the IP adddresses of the posters and the new blog put up. It's clear libel."hahahahaha, that would be funny! If we could do that, then we could have libel suits going back to the original posts about this whole false issue.
can one really sue a blog for libel? uh-oh, Jewish WhistleBlower might be in trouble!
>can one really sue a blog for >libel? uh-oh, Jewish >WhistleBlower might be in >trouble! Sure you can sue me and the rest of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's enemies. But of course he never will, just as all his legal letters have never translated into one lawsuit.Why?Because we would get discovery against him and then his house of cards falls.
Jewish Whistleblower, you will have no chance of real credibility in the community until you start using your real name. Hiding behind the veil of anonymity makes you feel free to post whatever garbage you want, but it's hard to take you seriously when you're being so cowardly (and extreme) in how you go about things.
>Jewish Whistleblower, you will >have no chance of real >credibility in the community >until you start using your real >name. Hiding behind the veil of >anonymity makes you feel free to >post whatever garbage you want, >but it's hard to take you >seriously when you're being so >cowardly (and extreme) in how you >go about things. I can't take you seriously Sarah no-last-name.Further my record stands:re: Tendler RCA expulsionRabbi Mordechai Tendler supporters - 0JWB - 1
>Hiding behind the veil of >anonymity makes you feel free to >post whatever garbage you want, Sarah no-last-name, it is also the most effective way to try to improve my community and make people safer. The problem is the rabbonim and community leaders won't protect you by making the necessary information public. That's what makes my posts and information so important.Case in point:http://jewishwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2005/02/updated-brandeis-u-alert-sexual.html#commentsttps://lists.brandeis.edu/wws/arc/hillel/2005-02/msg00004.htmlImportant Safety Alert Allan Lehmann From: "Allan Lehmann" email@example.comTo: "'Aharon Frazer'" firstname.lastname@example.org,email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com Subject: Important Safety Alert Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:18:06 -0500 Importance: Normal Dear Students,We wish to advise you of a serious safety concern that has been brought to our attention.A rabbi named Marc Golub recently invited a student on the Brandeis campus to participate in an interfaith text study, sponsored by a Conservative movement Keruv (outreach) Project. The student detected something inappropriate about his manner, and reported her concern about his intentions to Rabbi Frazer.Upon investigation, we determined the following:1)JewishWhistleBlower.com reports that Rabbi Golub worked as a mental health counselor in Virginia until he lost “his professional counseling license for having sex with a female client, according to a state disciplinary order... The order said Golub had sex with one client, offered money and jobs to two and made inappropriate comments about all three..." Shortly after this disciplinary action, Golub resigned his position as the rabbi of Temple Sinai in Virginia.2) Officials at the New England Region of the United Synagogue for Conservative Judaism knew nothing of the grant or project that Golub claims to represent.3) Golub is not affiliated with Brandeis University or Hillel in any way.We have notified the Department of Public Safety, and they are taking all necessary steps to protect students. Rabbi Golub should not appear on campus in the future; students are urged to report any contact with him to the Department of Public Safety or to one of us. Students are also reminded not to share personal contact information with him or other strangers.We appreciate that this issue was brought to our attention, and emphasize that vigilance in reporting all contact with suspicious people on campus helps the campus police keep the community safe. Sincerely,Rabbi Allan Lehmann - Jewish Chaplain, Rabbinic Director of HillelRabbi Aharon Frazer - Director, Hillel's Jewish Learning Initiative
Let's update my record:Sexual predator Rabbi Mordechai Tendler and supporters - 0Sexual predator Rabbi Mark A. Golub - 0JWB - 2
Will no Rabbi Mordechai Tendler supporter answer any of the questions I've posted?
To repeat:Let's put a list together of questions that Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's followers can't seem to answer:I'll start.1) Why so many women have come forward with the same allegations?2) Why has Rabbi Mordechai Tendler paid thousands to silence one alleged victim?3) Why did the RCA after a 15 month investigation kick Rabbi Mordechai Tendler out?4) Why is Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's brother Aron also under investigation?5) Why are none of the Feinsteins speaking out in support of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler? Why do Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven have no intention of supporting Rabbi Mordechai Tendler publicly or privately?
To summerize:1) Rabbi Mordechai Tendler expelled from the RCA.2) Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's supporters spend day knocking anyone who has provided support to Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's victims or been critical of him.3) Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's supporters refuse to answer any questions I've posed.4) JWB's record of accuracy remains. Nay sayers wrong again.
Wow , 61 comments and rising. Tendlers goons will stop at nothing to hold is name in esteem. JWB did you ever in your wildest imagination think this issue would be such a popular topic ? Thank g-d for you and this blog. The only exaggeration was Tendlers pitiful defense of his crimes, not JWB's posts. Of course he still has followers, but then again so did Charles Manson even after he was convicted of crimes. All of histories criminals have followers who seem to want to latch on to the limelight. They will only eventually go down with the ship, in this case go down with the shul. The controversies of this post and the responses are indicitive of eaxactly why KNH's reputation is dead as a result of MT's actions. The only assets the shul has are the building and land that it sits on. Its only a matter of time before the main supporters of KNH get up and leave or simply close their pockets. No one will want to move into a community where the Chul and Rabbi are under such a cloud of controversy. People have lost all respect for MT. Someone or some organization needs to do something quickly and strike him with a lawsuit while the fire is hot. Thank you again JWB for bringing to the worlds attention all the hypocrites of our religion and those that stand themselves on pedastals, demanding respect and honor solely by title, while acting in a dispicible and reprehensible manner behind closed doors. Chazak Y'yamatz JWB
4) JWB's record of untruths remains.
>4) JWB's record of untruths >remains. Please expand.
JWB. as soon as you'd like let me know when I can spill the beans of all of MT's supporters and financial backers. Although they are dwindling in number as we write. I can also include many other facts regarding the illegal activities of the shul, tzedukah funds, laundering money through the shul, and other activities MT has blessed over time. Tendler's supporters best be careful where they want to draw the line on this matter.
>laundering money through the shulCall the police. I dare you :-)Before you know it JWB and his pals Shifra and Puah are going to implicate Rav Tendler in the mob, Columbian drug trafficing and the Iraqi food-for-oil scandal.Money laundering. That's a creative one! Shkoyach!
How ironic that this info comes out the week before Purim. No, unfortunately the Mordecai of NH is not the hero of Purim, but is actually Haman in disguise. He needs to be hanged on the gallows a.s.a.p. KNH sould stamp their feet at the name MT during davening. The Rasha needs to go.
>Can you run a list of other >blogs/websites that expose this >stuff in our community? it would >be a real helpI think I am fairly unique in that regard.Some good reads:1) For halachic controversies:http://hirhurim.blogspot.com/2) Survivor blogshttp://jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com/http://thebeachofyellow.blogspot.com/3) Regular good posts on controversieshttp://canonist.comhttp://chakira.blog-city.com/4) Often breaks some remarkable scoops in the area of sexual abuse and is writing a book on the topic of abusive Orthodox Rabbis. The ever controversial but always compelling must read blog of Luke Ford (do not read if you have no sense of humor or you go to a Bais Yaakov [seriously, it is not for you]).http://lukeford.nethttp://lukeford.net/essays/contents/clergysexabuse.htm5) The low down on trouble involving Lubavitch or schita (and other controversies):http://www.mentalblog.comhttp://failedmessiah.typepad.com6) A funny but accurate parody of the online version of Yated(Israeli/European version).http://chareidi.blogspot.com7) A new blog that so far has been a good read.http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/8) Website with resourses regarding sexual abuse/harassment/exploitation in the Jewish communityhttp://www.theawarenesscenter.orghttp://theawarenesscenter.org/clergyabuse.htmlMy appologies if I missed any. Please feel free to post (if relevant to the above question).
Why not call HW and ask him, since you seem to not know. By the way, anyone interested in buying matzo from KNH for $26.00 per pound ? After all it is personally checked by MT of NH.
>JWB. as soon as you'd like let >me know when I can spill the >beans of all of MT's supporters >and financial backers. Although >they are dwindling in number as >we write. I can also include >many other facts regarding the >illegal activities of the shul, >tzedukah funds, laundering money >through the shul, and other >activities MT has blessed over >time. Tendler's supporters best >be careful where they want to >draw the line on this matter. Email it to me and I will run it past my sources. Since Rabbi Mordecai Tendler's have not respected my request to stick to the issues and forced me to delete numerous posts (a first for this blog) that were completely inappropriate, I'm prepared to consider posting what I can confirm.
>Call the police. I dare you :-)I suggest people should call the authorities regarding allegations that synagogue discretionary funds were used to "pay-off" some of the alleged victims. I've seen copies of several that were written to cash.Try this number. They can forward you:Clarkstown Town of: Police(845) 639-5800
JWB, a suggestion:The other blogs you mentioned, can you insert as links on your sidebar? (I've noticed you mention a few before, and that way they'd be easy access without having to repeat all the time.)
JWB-could you please ban or stop the blogger 613truth. Secondly, regarding my knowledge of questionable KNH activities, my goal is not to destroy KNH but to rid it of its cancerous infection known as MT of NH. He has succeeded in destroying a shul and community, not to mention several peoples lives. To let you know that I am aware of the situation and truths of the shul and community let me simply state that KNH's basement is used for public gatherings while it is C of O'd as "storage only". There are no sprinklers down there, it is not ADA Handicapped accessible, and cooking is done down there. The Yeshiva that is using the shul is using it illegally, it was not approved by the Village of NH. Therefore the rent being paid to KNH is not legal. Part of MT's salary is paid by having his personal bills paid and it is not declared income. The apartment above the shul was rented out to individuals and was never a Rabbi's residence. It is now used as the Yeshiva's offices and for classrooms. I am real.
There is nothing in KNH that violates any zoning laws. Buildings for religous use are exempt from many of the standard commercial zoning laws (including ADA and sprinklers exemption as long as the shul is less than 3 stories tall including the basement). Call the Village of New Hempstead at 845-354-8100. They are fully aware of the use of the building and the presence of the yeshiva there, including the use of the basement level.PS. KNH is the only "legal" shul in all of New Hempstead. All the other shuls are built in residential-zoned houses and are illegal. To be a legal shul you need 5+ acres, ample paved parking, emergency exits, etc. KNH has all of that, along with a fully legal Certificate of Occupancy. When you call the Village of New Hempstead, please feel free to "rat" on all the other shuls in New Hempstead since you seem to like to make trouble.
Clariication of an earlier post on Tendler's former lawyer. He quit. Quit. Quit because Tendler continued to meet and speak with one of the women who was believed to be behind or involved in the case against Tendler. This women would walk in fornt of the shul and he would speak to her even after the matter was being investigated. The women threatened this man, the lawyer, who was also a member of the shul and one who gave a lot of money to KNH and respected Tendler tremendously. But as what happens to most of Tendlers followers he betrays them and doublecrosses them. He says things to your face, then says other things to someone else. Tendker is a master at playing both sides of the table. Anyway, the lawyer figured that he must be nuts for trying to defend someone who would not stop talking to an alledged accuser. The lawyer and his family then decided to get out of NH, they sold their house and moved across town. So the truth is that the lawyer resigned from the case, not the reverse.
More interesting news...Rabbi Reuven Bulka, who is on the payroll of the RCA (see here) is also on the advisory board of the Tendler "witch hunt" organization The Awareness Center (see here) along with another infamous individual who cannot be named in this post.Coincidence? I doubt it. Conflict of interest? Definitely.
Yes, please do call the village and mention the use of the apartment above, the basement, and the Yeshiva. Check the C of O and use permit while you're at it. Ask if the basement is allowed for public gathering, cooking, and if it needs to be sprinklered. Ask for Carol, the Village Clerk or Mayor Dessau. Tell them trouble is brewing at KNH.
You are correct. That is the woman, and even I will agree she is unstable. She does still continue to hang around KNH and walks like a zombie up and down the road. She is obsessed with MT of NH. And that is the reason why the lawyer quit.
No, don't waste your time talking to Carol (a clerk) or Mayor Dessau. Ask to speak with Patrick Massaro the building inspector or Stephen Janis the Code Enforcement Officer. They both have personally inspected KNH on several occasions (most recently for the addition to the shul and the renovation to the upper floor for more classrooms). Either Pat or Steve will gladly confirm the C of O since they are the ones who signed off on it.
As they say, the truth hurts.
>could you please ban or stop the blogger 613truth"Shifra" and "Puah" slander Rav Tendler in public, in unsigned mass-mailings and all over the internet. Their decision to make themselves public figures in this case was their decision alone. If they don't want the notoriety, then they should have thought twice at the outset.And, if they truly believe that their actions are justified, then they should have nothing to hide and should be proud to have their name associated with their actions.
I am very disturbed by the amount of secrecy that involves these accusatory posts. If you name his name, then name yours. Why can't the JWB revel him/herself? Why can't the JWB speak from a position of doubt and humility? Why do we check this blog in the first place? RMT - who might be in a great heap of trouble - still has more credability than some blogger who operates from the bowels of the mis-information superhighway.
>Why can't the JWB revel >him/herself? Why can't the JWB >speak from a position of doubt and >humility?>RMT - who might be in a great heap of >trouble - still has more credability >than some blogger who operates from >the bowels of the mis-information >superhighway.I agree 100%. JWB has been challenged in other threads come clean, but he/she refuses to. Therefore, there is no reason to believe him/her whatsoever - in addition to the fact that he/she has been caught numerous times spreading exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies. This blog is little more than the National Inquirer online with a "Jewish" slant. People read this blog because it is a spectacle, not because it is credible or truthful.
JWB, if you really want to be an effective Whistle Blower... reveal yourself, bear some responsibility in this.(Now JWB -like a broken record- will respond that I should bear the responsibility of protecting victims, of not standing idly by.)In the meantime I encourage everyone in cyberspace to post under the name "Me." Let's drown this insane shmuck out.
MT is a "Rasha MeRusha" ..."Mitzvah Lefarsim" It is a Mitzvah to disclose and notify any body you see of his wickedness!How many more people will have to die and get sick ...till this community wakes up and throws this "fake, fraud,Phoney" out of our midst.Lets stop eating at all the places he gives a Hashgacha Tomorrow I will list all the establishments that should be boycotted!
RMT does not give hashgacha on anything other than his wife's kitchen. So, if you don't like RMT, I suggest that you avoid eating in his house.(Rabbi Tzvi Jacobs gives hashgacha on 2 or 3 places in Monsey under the auspices of the Vaad HaRabbonim, but the hashgacha has virtually nothing to do with Rav Tendler).
A rasha meusha? Posted by another anonymous fool. Such anonymous anger is so pointless.I cannot really defend him. I can't say that he's innocent any more convincingly then you can rant that he's not.However, you do not help anyone with such posts. You seem so foolish.BTW, the RMT I know is a very sensitive caring person. He's also the most hated rabbi in America; mostly due to his familial infighting, his courage to take on the chassidim and yeshivish world, his creativity in pesak, and his kindness.If he is guilty in any of this, then it must be the result of great insanity. (Wouldn't he have too much at stake? His grandfather's legacy, his shul, his teaching position, his aility to help others...) Why can't you treat this issue respectfully and kindly? You all bury him with such confidence, but you can't even revel yourselves. Go to hell fools.
RMT does not give hashgacha on anything other than his wife's kitchen. So, if you don't like RMT, I suggest that you avoid eating in his houseThat's not fair to the Rebbetzin, because as we should all know - Ade Echad Neeman B'Issurin and therefore if his wife says that her food is kosher that's all that is necessary.
ME, you moron. You delete the 613truth link? why would you do that? you manipulator. You are the real abuser.
>Try this number. They can forward you:>Clarkstown Town of: Police>(845) 639-5800Once again, JWB needs a geography lesson. The Village of New Hempstead is located in the Town of Ramapo and not in the Town of Clarkstown as noted here. Let us keep our jurisdictions straight in dealing with such a serious matter.
>Once again, JWB needs a >geography lesson. The Village of >New Hempstead is located in the >Town of Ramapo and not in the >Town of Clarkstown as noted >here. Let us keep our >jurisdictions straight in >dealing with such a serious >matter. http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=720+Union+Road,+New+Hempstead,+NY+10977Local search for: policeResult:Clarkstown Town of: Police(845) 639-5800 - 3.5 mi E
If juvenile Rabbi Mordechai Tendler supporter 613 does not stop posting links to his blog, I will begin posting Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's sexual habits per the Praesidium/RCA investigation.I'm serious.I will not tolerate personal attacks against those supporting Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's victim. There will be consequences.
How are links to the 613truth site "attacks"? Shifra and Puah are very public about their participation in this witch hunt. They clearly don't mind making their feelings public, so there is no reason for you to interfere with their wishes.Besides, I don't see any attacking information on 613's blog page. You, of all people, should be able to recognize "attack" information, since you are the source of most of it around here.
>How are links to the 613truth >site "attacks"? Shifra and Puah >are very public about their >participation in this witch >hunt. They clearly don't mind >making their feelings public, so >there is no reason for you to >interfere with their wishes.>>Besides, I don't see any >attacking information on 613's >blog page. You, of all people, >should be able to >recognize "attack" information, >since you are the source of most >of it around here. These are not public figures, they have not made their names public if 613 intends to name them and post their picture, do so elsewhere. I consider this past the line of acceptable and I will hold Rabbi Mordechai Tendler personally responsible for not reigning in his supporters and I will take this to another level that you will not like by posting his sexual habits as in the Praesidium/RCA investigation.If you feel it is appropriate to post names of supporters of Tendler's victims and smear them then prepare for a real fight.Gloves will come off.I will have names of attendees and financial supporters (which using your twisted logic) are just as public and well known.I haven't even begun to post you degenerates.
After reading all the posts here, I think that this one is the most intriguing:----Rabbi Reuven Bulka, who is on the payroll of the RCA (see here) is also on the advisory board of the Tendler "witch hunt" organization The Awareness Center (see here) along with another infamous individual who cannot be named in this post.Coincidence? I doubt it. Conflict of interest? Definitely.----What was Bulka's level of involvment in the "investigation"? Did he recused himself due to the obvious conflict here?
To the best of my knowledge he wasn't involved in the investigation.Rabbi Dratch as well had to remove himself from the investigation due to potential conflict.The problem was those remaining have no experience or training in this area and royally screwed up.That's why they had to bring in Rabbi Billet to clean up the mess.
Although, this case has been going on for decades, the RCA really only got involved after the events first reported by SIW in this article:http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/Tendler_Mordecai.html#The
>These are not public figures, they>have not made their names publicYour ignorance of this situation surprises me, really. Both individuals are public figures in this matter by their own choosing. They have spoken out against MT in VERY public venues and have not attempted to hide their identity.>If you feel it is appropriate to post >names of supporters of Tendler's >victims and smear themHow does 613truth's post "smear them"? Give us a break. Just because you say it is so, does not make it so (sound familiar?).>I will have names of attendees and >financial supporters (which using >your twisted logic) are just as >public and well known.Ooooh. Now there is a threat to be reckoned with. What are you going to do, post the KNH membership list? (There are 160 families on the membership list: roughly 300 adults and 1000 children.) I somehow doubt that your threat scares anyone.
>Ooooh. Now there is a threat to >be reckoned with. What are you >going to do, post the KNH >membership list? (There are 160 >families on the membership list: >roughly 300 adults and 1000 >children.) I somehow doubt that >your threat scares anyone. Try me.Others commenting know how crazy I am.
>Others commenting know how crazy I am.Well said. No argument here.You did not answer: how is the 613truth link a "smear"?
>You did not answer: how is the >613truth link a "smear"?The people in question are not public figures. Their names are not public outside your little group of degenerates.Their role is irrelevant. You just don't have the guts to go against the rabbonim at the RCA who expelled your putrid Rebbe, so you pick on girls.Coward.
>The people in question are not public >figures. Their names are not public is this guy really so clueless?
> is this guy really so clueless?Apparently so.
Apparently, 613 wants me to post information from the RCA/Praesidium investigation about his Rebbe. Fine.1) Places Rabbi Mordechai Tendler had sex with a married woman:a. in his bedroom (while his wife was away)b. in his office at his housec. in her housed. in Boston when they went away togethere. in a secluded area in the park2) Rabbi Mordechai Tendler also told her he liked sex better when she was menstruating.I have more 613.
JWB: Not sure how Bloggers' Terms of Service works, but the two women might want to contact Bloggers' maintainers to get that 613 blog removed.
Shaitels and snoods. Oh my. That sure is damning evidence. Keep up the good work JWB. RMT will be found innocent in no time flat.
>Not sure how Bloggers' Terms of >Service works, but the two women >might want to contact Bloggers' >maintainers to get that 613 blog >removed.Here's a link to the terms of service."Member agrees not to transmit through the Service any unlawful, harassing, libelous, abusive, threatening, or harmful material of any kind or nature."It looks like 613truth has nothing to worry about, but JWB had better be "heading for the hills", and fast!
What a Chutzpeh of 613 to call himself that!For posting those pictures he and his family will never get out of hell! And will never see nachas from their children!
SW THE PICHURES THAT 613 PUBLISHED!THESE WOMEN LOOK NORMAL TO ME, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO HARM "mt" IF THE STORIES WERE NOT TRUE???????The best thing that 613 did was to post those pictures and give their E-mailEverybody should E-mail them and give them the support they need to fight these perverts!!
"I guess Michael Jackson still has his supporters too!"Yes, everyone can learn a lot about denial from this case, and the influence of money, power, charisma, fame to the willfull choice of blindness by many.
>RMT will be found innocent in no>time flat.Dude, he got expelled from the RCA.I've read a summary of the RCA/Praesidium investigation. I would be more concerned with:a. what I can post hereb. what the Jewish Week and Forward will be publishing shortlythen attacking 2 women here who although they are heroes, are not the reason Tendler was expelled.But if you choose to continue, you won't have to wait for the Jewish press in the next few weeks to cover what was uncovered by the RCA/Praesidium investigation. But I guarantee, my coverage will be even less to your liking and much more graphic.
I suggest the 2 women being attacked contact both lawyers and the police. The degenerate poster is obviously unaware of the difference between public figures and private figures. The NY stalking laws may also be useful in this case. Particularly, as he has named you, posted photos and linked contact information. His claim that you (or the proper authorities) will be unable to get his IP address is false. He is unfamiliar with how anonymouse works.Let the police know about any other stalking/intimidation you've encountered.
NY Stalking Laws:...the law is recognizing abuse that does not require physical violence or threats of physical violence. (See 120.45(1) where it states "causes reasonable fear of material harm to the physical health, safety or property of such person ......." and 120.45(2) where it states "causes material harm to the mental or emotional health of such person ...." )I believe by posting your names, photos and contact information, this degenerate poster may have crossed the line and committed a criminal offense.
"I suggest the 2 women being attacked contact both lawyers and the police."Once again Whistleblower claims that those women were "attacked" by 613, but refuses to substantiate his claim. He expects all his readers to join in his fantasies.The 613truth blogger did not do anything wrong. There is nothing illegal about his page, so calling the police (FBI, Mossad, whatever) is meaningless.Dude, the two women chose to be public. If they don't want their website linked, then let them take their site off the net.
Is JWB always this delusional?
if you think that 613torah's blog page qualifies as "stalking", then you surely had better rethink your plans to publish tendler's shul mailing list.
Earlier versions referred to them as "who is attacking MT" as did posts here by the same individual.Servers will have copies of those deleted items.That is well beyond the threshold for a criminal complaint and I believe a violation of the stalking laws. >if you think that 613torah's >blog page qualifies >as "stalking", then you surely >had better rethink your plans to >publish tendler's shul mailing >list. I always am careful to conduct myself within the letter of the law. So don't worry about me.
>Dude, the two women chose to be >public. If they don't want their >website linked, then let them >take their site off the net. Dude, they did not consent for a 3rd party to link their site and accuse them of "attacks" on MT on that 3rd pary site.Read up on the stalking laws.
FYI- Tendler's kids are all in school and have been for at least the past 7 years, and Rebbitzen Jofen has lived there only for the past two years. We are talking about events that happened from approximately 1990 to the present. Most of the occurences in the house happened between 1995-2000. Tendler has recently used his shul office, before the Yeshiva was there. Unfortunately for him, he has run out of convenient locations.
As a member of Rav Tendler's kehilla, I can tell you that several of the other women that I have spoken to are concered about the allegations, but we support Rav Tender and believe in his innocence until proven guilty (the RCA did not prove anything other than Rav Tendler did not comply with all of their investigation, and we anticipate that Rav Tendler will explain himself regarding this matter).There are women in the kehilla who know some of the accusers personally and are familiar with their backgrounds and their histories of instability and false accusations in the past. None of the women that I spoke to have every experienced, or know of, any inappropriate conduct on the part of Rabbi Tendler, even during private discussions and when discussing sensitive topics (niddah, marriage & soforth).
I think its time to post all those supporting MT ,,,, so that we should avoid being "Meshaddeich" with them .....Anyone supporting MT after his expulsion should be put in cheirem...MT would frequently say in reference to Agunois "Lets give the Women the benefit of the doubt"Well why dont we apply that same maxim in this case??????????
Again, for all those who say they know the backgrounds of the accusers .... MT also knew their backgrounds and continued to see them ....all this doesn't negate the fact that he abused them!
There is a Halacha ...That "Kolo Delo Pasik" a rumer that does not stop has a validity to it!Even if all the allegations are false >>..he can know longer serve in a communial position until all the allegations are cleared up to the satisfaction of the Gedoilei HadorMT must be man enough to step down ...since he himself calls himself a Poisek
To the woman or women who support MT and his escapades, you failed to start what you though about the crarge by the RCA that he "engaged in conduct inappropriate for an orthodox rav. Please let us know what your interpretation of that means and if you would allow your daughters to spend "quality" time with the pervert.
I too am quite baffled how any intelligent woman, especially a member of KNH, can still state that they support Tendler. WOuld you also hire a lawyer that was dis-barred?. He has been kicked out of the RCA for "inappropriate behavior". You know as well as I do, that Tendler is not going to explain anything to you or to his shul. If he didn't explain himself and was kicked out ot the RCA for not cooperating with their investigation, what lies do you expect him to tell the members of his shul. Wake up you idiots and see the light. We all know some of the accusers and any member of the shul will agree that some of them were unstable. The fact is that he took advantage of many unstable women and it is a perfect cover for him, as now everyone thinks that the women making the accusations are nuts. How much more perfect a scenario could he have dreamed of to cover his crimes. He is guilty. What proof are you waiting for ? Moshiach to come and set everyone straight.
Last warning to 613if u dont remove the pictures I will disclose your private E-MAil and the woman who appears in the VideoIn addition I will let everyone know of MT sexual fetish's ...all abused woman reported the same unusual and bizzare fetish.So that u know that I know what I am talking about...all woman reported that he told them that he has the Halacha of a King (Melech) and therefore no rules of Niddah apply!
" Despite all of this, these women continue to practice their witchcraft totally unsupervised and accountable to no one."Witchcraft?!! Ahahahaha! Did you replace your kippah for a Puritans' hat?What a crazy world it is, where midwifery is seen as a bigger threat than a sexually predatory rabbi.
"Unfortunately for him, he has run out of convenient locations."Obviously not since he's using bushes in a park.....
I would note that the letter posted from Luke Ford's site was posted by someone using my name. It has been removed. If you read the material on Luke's site in context, you will see that the letter sent around is filled with utterly false information. Rabbi Mordechai Tendler and his supporters have no commitment to basic values such as the truth.
You can determine if a comment is authentic from me by clicking on "jewishwhistleblower".
Lets get back to the real questions, no one will answer.1) Why so many women have come forward with the same allegations?2) Why has Rabbi Mordechai Tendler paid thousands to silence one alleged victim?3) Why did the RCA after a 15 month investigation kick Rabbi Mordechai Tendler out?4) Why is Rabbi Mordechai Tendler's brother Aron also under investigation?5) Why are none of the Feinsteins speaking out in support of Rabbi Mordechai Tendler? Why do Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven have no intention of supporting Rabbi Mordechai Tendler publicly or privately?
Tendler hired media consultantHank Sheinkopf to help with his case. The following is a quote from Sheinkoph."I have a lot of clients who are squeamish but most of them ain't in office anymore. You have to force the action. That is what this business is about. It's about combat. And the only way power exceeds is when you beat it to death. Power doesn't give up anything. My business is holding on to power for people who know how to use power. In that context the only way you win is by combat. This is a war. Somebodys got to avenge this. I'm the avenger." By the way, who is funding the Tendler legal and PR costs ? Could it possibly by KNH's coffers or his Discretionary Account ?
"Tendler hired media consultantHank Sheinkopf to help with his case. The following is a quote from Sheinkoph."I have a lot of clients who are squeamish but most of them ain't in office anymore. You have to force the action. That is what this business is about. It's about combat. And the only way power exceeds is when you beat it to death. Power doesn't give up anything. My business is holding on to power for people who know how to use power. In that context the only way you win is by combat. This is a war. Somebodys got to avenge this. I'm the avenger." Wow, that's really spiritual.Someone want to explain how this fits in with Judaism?
Please provide a legitimate source for that quote, otherwise we must assume that it is bogus like most of the other "information" on this blog. I don't deny that the quote might be correct, but again, please provide a verifiable source.
Here is your "legitimate source".http://www.cnam.com/voteforme/tgpg6.htmEnjoy.
>Someone want to explain how this >fits in with Judaism? What does most of what Rabbi Mordechai Tendler and those around him have to do with Judaism?They may dress, look and sound like frum Jews but so did the Shabtai Tzvi.Rabbi Mordechai Tendler was expelled from the RCA. The RCA sent a release to the media that Rabbi Mordechai Tendler "engaged in conduct inapporopriate for an Orthodox rabbi."Those supporting and following him are enabling and financing that conduct.In other words, they are outside Orthodox Judaism.Literally.
>Please provide a legitimate >source for that quote, otherwise >we must assume that it is bogus >like most of the >other "information" on this >blog. I don't deny that the >quote might be correct, but >again, please provide a >verifiable source. You could just ask:"Please provide a source for the quote."
Unfortunately, people like you cannot accept the truths of our society. This blog aids in showing the mistruths and deviations that Judaism is supposed to shelter us from. I'm sure JWB would love to not have to post these things, but it does serve to protect us from the criminal element in our midst. People like MT of NH. Here is the source for good ole Hank.Here is your "legitimate source".http://www.cnam.com/voteforme/tgpg6.htmEnjoy it. You can also Google his name. He is quite good at what he does and would make good shabbos company for people like MT of NH.
>You could just ask:>"Please provide a source for the quote."Frequently, when people ask YOU that type of question, you say "because I said so" (or similar language) or you refuse to provide a verifiable source for your "facts". Check the other long Tendler thread where you do this repeatedly. So, the members of this blog must assume anything posted here is sheker unless a solid source is provided.
Who is Hank Sheinkoph. See the link.http://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/politics/pcm/faculty/sheinkopf.htmlHank does not come cheap.
> Hank does not come cheap.What is his hourly consulting rate? I don't see it on the link you provided.
>Frequently, when people ask YOU >that type of question, you >say "because I said so" (or >similar language) or you refuse >to provide a verifiable source >for your "facts". Check the >other long Tendler thread where >you do this repeatedly. So, the >members of this blog must assume >anything posted here is sheker >unless a solid source is >provided.Laughable. You post nothing but sheker as fact, never providing any documentation, sources and names. You have nerve demanding anything of me. Watch the Jewish press, what I've reported here will soon be there just as everything else I've posted about the story has. I told you what was going on with the Tendler investigation in the past and my information has proven to be accurate.I guess you can't answer any of the questions I've posed.
My question to all the Rabbi Mordechai Tendler supporters here:Who do you follow?The rabbonim at the RCA or Rabbi Mordechai Tendler? If the later, what are you saying in your actions about the rabbonim at the RCA?
How is it that Mordechai Tendler is still teaching at RIETS. If the RCA expells him, how can YU keep him as part of the faculty
JWB - mazel tov to you and your family on your recent simcha
>JWB - mazel tov to you and your >family on your recent simchaHmmm.... fishing?Go fish!
Can you please list other blog sites that are printing info on the Tendler case
What is Y.U. doing about this. Doesn;t he still give a shir there on Tuesday nights. Also, why isn't the Vaad HaRabbonim of Monsey doing anything to have him removed. Ans lastly, why isn't, or more importantly, why hasn't his shul terminated him or at least suspended him. This seems to me to be a an unfortunate but clear cut case of abuse by a Rabbinic leader. He should be censured or put into Cherim. Rabbonim should refuse to participate in events with him.
Now we can sympathize with Yosef Hatzadik, who also couldn't prove his innocence.What you are doing to MT is indistinguishable, in halocho, from murder.All the RCA is doing is Kabdeihu Vechashdeihu, if you know what that means. What you are doing is retzicha.
MT has not had a chance to respond publicly to the situation. Until that occurs, there is no justification for KNH or YU or the Vaad of Monsey to take any action. Of course, there is a time limit. Those organizations are not going to wait forever.I spoke to someone at KNH who said that the general feeling in their shul is that people are standing behind MT and that a lot of people are suspicious of the whole situation due to the very shady histories of both the accusers and the two women who have coordinated the attacks.
how come you haven't posted any comments regarding the hatzoloh situtation
Now we can sympathize with Yosef Hatzadik, who also couldn't prove his innocence.What you are doing to MT is indistinguishable, in halocho, from murder.All the RCA is doing is Kabdeihu Vechashdeihu, if you know what that means. What you are doing is retzicha. Are you comparing the "Rasha MT" to Yosef Hazadik?? What a discusting comparison!!It is "indistinguishable, in Halocho from murder"?MT is the Murderer....He is the one that is spilling Jewish blood!!!!In Halacha ... MT is called a "Rodef" and everyone has the right to spread all and any info about him to protect the innocent!Stop giving us Musser!! and throw the BUM out of the community NOW!!!The RCA had been investigating this for 17 months now!!Can anyone tell me ... why MT was thrown out of his father's home 30 years ago and asked to live by his granfather???
CAn someone kindly post all the Simchas that MT will attend.There are a group of women that would like to protest outside!!All those who would like to do something for Judaism ....can now join our group that will follow MT around to all Simchas and protest his discusting presence!
WE ARE ORGANIZING A PROTEST IN FRONT OF YU TUESDAY EVENING AT 8:00 p.m. We will provide the signs!Just come ... and make a Kiddush Hashem!!
>MT has not had a chance to >respond publicly to the >situation.He's had 15+ months.>Until that occurs, there is no >justification for KNH or YU or >the Vaad of Monsey to take any >action.Justification:1) The fact he was expelled publicly from the RCA for"engag[ing] in conduct inapporopriate for an Orthodox rabbi."2) If Rabbi Mordechai Tendler does anything those institutions could be sued "through the nose". Frankly, the directors/board members may be personally liable in this sitution if anything happens.>Of course, there is a time >limit. Those organizations are >not going to wait forever.So far they have waited 15+ months despite knowledge of the allegations and the investigation.>I spoke to someone at KNH who >said that the general feeling in >their shul is that people are >standing behind MT and that a >lot of people are suspicious of >the whole situation due to the >very shady histories of both the >accusers and the two women who >have coordinated the attacks. Are you claiming that the RCA isn't aware of your smears on these people? Wake up, the RCA investigated and now Rabbi Mordechai Tendler has been expelled. Are you claiming the RCA are utter fools? That after 15 months of listening to all sides they don't know anything?
>how come you haven't posted any >comments regarding the hatzoloh >situtation Send me a tip or post something as I don't know what you are talking about.
> WE ARE ORGANIZING A PROTEST IN FRONT OF YU"Shifra and Puah" will be there, I'm sure. As we all know, they are very public about their participation in the MT situation.
Understand that two boys from the Yesivah that KNH rents to...saw Hanky Panky with MT and a woman not his wife and wants to talk about it ...so I gave them this address.Hope to hear from them soon!
"Shifra and Puah" were holy people,and so are these woman, May Hashem give them the strength to continue their holy work in eradicating Sexual Perverts and predators from our community!MT Yemach Shemo Vezichro
People must protest whether it be in front of Y.U. or in front of KNH. Stop attending KNH. Do not give money to his Tzedukah fund as you do not know where the money is going. Since it is discretionary it could be going for additional payoffs to women, or to his legal defense fund. Anyone who compares MT of Nh to Josef HaTzadic is degrading one of our holiest forefathers. Compare MT to Haman, or better yet to Shabbtai Tzvi. KNH members are already discussing having MT's services terminated. Except of course maybe 1-2 members of the Board of Chasidim at KNH, everyone is against him at this point. DO not be fooled by people postinf false claims that the shul is thriving, has money, and people are still davening there. Ask any insider who knows the true status of the shul. Since the RCA has failed to do its job, the people must now intervene and begin the process to have him removed from his Rabbinic duties. KNH is falling apart, due to his actions. Do not let 2 members of the Board at KNH, the shick yingels, to tell you things are status quo. It is far from it. The President must resign along with MT. Poor Michelle whom we adore and love, how she has suffered and must endure through this with her children. May Hashem protect them and us from the evil that spews from MT's mouth. And he has the nerve to give a shir on Loshen Hara each shabbos. How ridiculous and pathetic to hear him give a shir at all. Who can look him in the face anymore, what a tragedy.
What Hatzoloh controversy?
I agree. The posts regarding knh's demise are greatly exaggerated and basically false. Anyone with eyes can come and see for themselves 7 days a week.
The truth of the matter is that this whole situation is tragic. Tragic for the women who were abused, tragic for the Tendler family, and it is a tragedy that a really good person became such a Rasha. People fought for him over the years and helped him build a great community. That is now unfortunately all history. He has caused the ruination of a Kehilla. The fact is, that the situation behooves us to demand his resignation or have him terminated. unfortunately, MT's ego is so huge that he will not go easily. We need to take action now to save New Hempstead. This is also the direct result of an organizations failure (the RCA) to take definitive action. Are the organizations that represent Klal Yisroel so inept and unprepared to handle sexual abuse, drug addiction, alcohol abuse, spousal abuse, and all the myriad of problems that we seem to have stuck our heads in the sand, choosing to deny that these problems exist in the frum community. That is also one of the tragedies here. This is a no win situation for anyone, but ultimately one must pay the price for committing certain atrocities. That is why it is our responsibility and absolute right to call for the removal of Mordecai Tendler from his Rabbinic capacity and duties. May Hashem continue ot protect Klal Yisroel and send us moshiach, speedily in our time.
Those who continue to mislead us into thinking that KNH is thriving,are the same ones who kept telling us that Arafat is still alive!
People are so hard at work here to keep KNH afloat. You'd be better off concentrating your efforts on having your fearless leader removed. Then maybe you'll start having people donate again. Four minyonim attended by 12 people each. WOW, thats impressive. The first minyon during the week needs to wait how long for a minyon ?Things are okay at KNH ? Then why aren't bills being paid and why does money kept being tsken out of savings. Stop the b.s. already and get real. KNH Board memebers are franticly posting on this site, how funny is that. Did you tell everyone that the Rabbonim of the shul are meeting with MT tonight to discuss their dissatisfaction with things. It is rumored that they will leave the shul due to the association with Tendler.
JWB - how is Michelle doing?
I've read the posts, and I while everything I've read would seem to point to him being guilty, but as small as the likelihood may be for you, he may be innocent. Is this the best way forum for dealing with such issues in our community? Non-Jews read these bloggs too, and even if he is guilty, what a chilul hashem this presents to the world! Isn't there some other way to vindicate victims and deal with these types of issues so that the rest of the world doesn't think "look at those Jews-they're no different than us" we're supposed to be a light unto the nations, maybe we should deal with such horrors in a way that doesn't create such a rift among Jews and create a chilul hashem for the non-Jews
KNH needs to be kept afloat, its M. Tendler that needs to sink and drown.
The only way to stop this Chillul Hashem and stop these blogs is to get rid of that pervert!
MT chose to create the chilul hashem by doing what he did. The chilul hashem lies on the fact that an orthodox rav from a highly respected family was involved in extramarital affairs, and emotional abuse of women who came to him for help. They were innocent individuals who were manipulated by someone with tremendous power who also had a G-d complex. That is the chilul hashem. The goyim will see that we are prone to the same issues and problems as they are. This is solely Tendlers fault and no one elses. Tendler created the chilul hashem not the ones posting on this blog. Let him come clean by admitting everything and create a kiddush hashem by doing teshuvah and apologizing for his actions, seek professional help and recover from his sickness and get well.
JWB could not possibly know how Michelle is doing. He has never met her and does not know her.
Its time for Michelle to come clean and tell us everything she knows about her husband!She has been protecting him for much too long thereby having a hand in the abuse that these poor women had to go thru
Anyone who thinks that the first shacharis has to wait to get a minyan clearly displays his/her ignorance of KNH and proves that they have no idea what actually takes place there. The KNH 6am minyan has 15-20 ppl on a daily basis, which is WAY bigger than other 6am minyanim in any shul (with very few exceptions, like BH and BT).
What a bald face lieThe first minyan of KNH is a pathetic scene of 9 sometimes ten "Alte Kockers" sayin Kaddish
It is completely out of line to bring Michelle into this. She and her children are innocent. She can do nothing at this point but to stand by her husband. She, beli eyin hara, has children who need shidduchim, and she has no choice any longer. With 8 kids she could never leave him. That is a tragedy of immense proportions.
613, you are a real hypocrite, you go and spam other blogs' comments but do not allow any on your own!!! The nerve of you.
It is also this first Minyan who can probably testify to the facts and help these women ... they must have seen "Pervert MT" with some of the women..
>What a bald face lie>The first minyan of KNH is a pathetic >scene of 9 sometimes ten "Alte >Kockers" sayin KaddishThere were 17 today and the minyan started at 6am sharp. Only one person is "alt", and everyone else is between 25 and 55.Your ignorance is showing again. Admit that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Just out of curiosity- Does Tendler still get to shul at Barchu. What a great role model he is. Do you still wait for him to finish shmone esrei before repeating it. Please tell em it ain't so. Does Tendler still insist on sitting down at the head of the kiddush table when you have a shabbos kiddush, waiting to be served. Is that his Melech complex in action that also permitted him to have sex with women while they were in niddah ?
>I've read the posts, and I while >everything I've read would seem >to point to him being guilty, It's not about guilt or innocence. This isn't a court of law. We have no sanhedrin. This is about whether Rabbi Mordechai Tendler is a sexual predator. This is whether he has been sexually exploiting married women, agunot and women who come to him for help and counselling.He hasn't just violated Jewish law. He's destroyed the lives of both women he's exploited and their husbands. He's destroyed marrages and he's destroyed people's faith. There are some sick people who believe that it was a few victims and a few activists that have brought this about. Nonsense.Investigators spoke with dozens of people on both sides for 15+ months. What they heard was horrible and unacceptable.The RCA gave Rabbi Mordechai Tendler every opportunity, every benefit of doubt.In the end, the decision was clear expell him.>but as small as the likelihood >may be for you, he may be >innocent.See above. The RCA expelled him.>Is this the best way forum for >dealing with such issues in our >community?Unfortunately, it appears so. We all gave the RCA over 15 months to deal with this situation. All they could do in the end was expell him. Still, a step forward. Rabbi Mordechai Tendler still teaches, still counsels women and is still a pulpit Rabbi.Sexual predators thrive when we give them our silence. Speak out, publicize their activities, take away their power. Publicity greatly reduces their ability to prey on others.>Non-Jews read these bloggs too, >and even if he is guilty, what a >chilul hashem this presents to >the world!The non-Jews who hate us hardly need an excuse. They will hate us regardless. The chilul Hashem is that we allowed this deviant to prey on Jewish women for so long. The community has enabled him for too long with our silence. We have silenced too often the voices of his victims.>Isn't there some other way to >vindicate victims and deal with >these types of issues so that >the rest of the world doesn't >think "look at those Jews->they're no different than us" >we're supposed to be a light >unto the nations, maybe we >should deal with such horrors in >a way that doesn't create such a >rift among Jews and create a >chilul hashem for the non-JewsSo far our track record in this area isn't so hot. Ask the victims of Rabbis Lanner, Matis, Bryks among others.If someone could come up with a solution, I'm sure both our religious leaders and courts would be interested.
JW is not an alte koke. Without him the shul could close the doors altogether. You should count your blessings that hes still there. Although I do not know for how much longer he will put of with the Board of Chassidim's incompetence.
These MT cultist keep lying! there were no 17 people today ...they had to wait till 6:25 until they barely scrapped together 2 "Alte Kockers" to complete the Minyan!
just a quick thought: the halacha is that if two witnesses tell the EXACT SAME STORY they are not believed, because they must be coordinating their testimony and are lying. Since all these women seem to be saying the EXACT SAME STORY, with the same exact (almost word for word) allegations, shouldn't that clue you in that they are being coordinated and they are lying? It is well known that they are all emotionally unstable women who came to rabbi tendler to help them, yet these same unstable women are being believed to tell these tales? JWB: why do these women get any credibility? what proof do YOU have, if the RCA after 15+ months could not find any proof. Rabbi tendler was expelled because he was not relying solely on the RCA to investigate, which the RCA viewed as not cooperating. HE WAS NOT EXPELLED DUE TO ANY FINDINGS RELATING TO THE ALLEGATIONS! There is NO PROOF, so how dare you believe these women enough to say the things that you do? and to quote in public from their UNPROVEN ALLEGATIONS? that is slander!! How dare you! Go back to the porn industry! Your mind is obviously there anyway!
Mr Truthman.The RCA investigated for 15+ monthsThe RCA is the orginazation that the pervert mt belonged to for more than 30 years ... he never complained or criticized the RCAThe RCA threw him out Conclusion:MT is a Sexual predator that has to be stopped!Any one defending him should send their daughters to him for tea!
Again, all this retoric proves is that KNH can only survive this controversy if MT of NH leaves. The cloud over the community will then move on and the sun will shine once again. There will always be two sides to this. The only solution os for the victims to come forward and reveal themselves and file a criminal charge. Unfortunately, some of them are already divorced, as a result of his influence, but one of them needs to muster the strength and resolve to come forward and sue. Sue MT, sue KNH, sue the RCA. Someone needs to fund it, which I'm sure wouldn;t be hard. Someone needs to convince any or several of the victims to step forward. IT IS THE ONLY WAY AT THIS POINT TO STOP MT ONCE AND FOR ALL. WE BEG YOU TO SUE. PLEASE.
The RCA knows the Halacha just like Truthmanyet they threw him to the dogs!
"The RCA investigated for 15+ monthsThe RCA is the orginazation that the pervert mt belonged to for more than 30 years ... he never complained or criticized the RCAThe RCA threw him outConclusion:MT is a Sexual predator that has to be stopped!"Logic fails to reveal how you reached that conclusion when the RCA did not reach that conclusion, after 15+ months. if he was guilty why not say so? but THEY DIDN'T say so!
I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT AN ORGANIZED PROTEST DURING TENDLERS SHIR AT YU WILL TAKE PLACE IN FRONT OF YU TOMORROW NIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL. AT CURRENT COUNT APPORXIMATELY 20 PEOPLE HAVE SAID THEY WILL COME. IF YOU NEED DIRECTIONS PLEASE GO TO THE YU WEBSITE. THERE ARE RUMORS THAT THE SHIR MIGHT BE CANCELLED, IF SO WE WILL PSOT IT HERE SOMETIME TOMORROW.
>just a quick thought: the >halacha is that if two witnesses >tell the EXACT SAME STORY they >are not believed, because they >must be coordinating their >testimony and are lying. Since >all these women seem to be >saying the EXACT SAME STORY, >with the same exact (almost word >for word) allegations, shouldn't >that clue you in that they are >being coordinated and they are >lying?Your whole premise is wrong. There are witnesses in addition to the women that have provided testimony and evidence that backs up their story. Each victim has a unique tale of horrors with numerous similarities (which is part of Tendler's MO).>It is well known that >they are all emotionally >unstable women who came to rabbi >tendler to help them, yet these >same unstable women are being >believed to tell these tales? There are witnesses in addition to the women that have provided testimony and evidence that backs up their story.>JWB: why do these women get any >credibility? what proof do YOU >have, if the RCA after 15+ >months could not find any proof. Your poor interpretation of the facts. The RCA clearly stated that Rabbi Mordechai Tendler "engaged in conduct inapporopriate for an Orthodox rabbi.". Why do you think they specifically went out of their way to state that?>Rabbi tendler was expelled >because he was not relying >solely on the RCA to >investigate, which the RCA >viewed as not cooperating. HE>WAS NOT EXPELLED DUE TO ANY >FINDINGS RELATING TO THE >ALLEGATIONS! There is NO PROOF, Nonsense. To quote again: the RCA clearly stated that Rabbi Mordechai Tendler "engaged in conduct inapporopriate for an Orthodox rabbi.".>so how dare you believe these >women enough to say the things >that you do? and to quote in >public from their UNPROVEN >ALLEGATIONS? that is slander!! Actually the word is libel. Slander is spoken. Libel is written. But it isn't libel:It's true. >How dare you! Go back to the >porn industry! Your mind is>obviously there anyway!Dude, you're reading the wrong blog. I have zero connection to the porn industry.
>Logic fails to reveal how you >reached that conclusion when the >RCA did not reach that >conclusion, after 15+ months. if >he was guilty why not say so? >but THEY DIDN'T say so! A court of law, a sanhedrin determines guilt. The RCA simply determines if a member is fit to be a member. In this case they made the following determination after a 15+ month investigation:Rabbi Mordechai Tendler "engaged in conduct inapporopriate for an Orthodox rabbi."
>These MT cultist keep lying! there >were no 17 people today ...>they had to wait till 6:25 until they >barely scrapped together 2 "Alte >Kockers" to complete the Minyan!You are clearly an imbecile. I was at the 6am minyan this morning. There were 17 ppl there and it started at 6am promptly. [The "alte kocker" was not JW (he was not there this morning). The "alt" that I referred to is MF.]
"they had to wait till 6:25 until they barely scrapped together 2 "Alte Kockers" to complete the Minyan!"you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. when I arrived at 6:50am today for the 7am minyan, the 6am minyan had just finished (which means they certainly did not start at 6:25 as you claim) and there were at least 15 people there
So you're calling the M the Magid an alter kocker. Well I guess you're right. But he tells one hell of a story. Did you hear the one where he was in WWII.....
Read the statement:1."has refused to cooperate with the [organization] in its investigation, and has refused to appear at a hearing.” 2."engaged in conduct inappropriate for an Orthodox rabbiJWB- how do you have patience for these idiots ???? Its driving me nuts
>JWB- how do you have patience >for these idiots ???? Its >driving me nuts These idiots do their evil cause and Rebbe more damage then I could ever do. Remember Gafni's supporters and enablers? Where did they get their Rebbe? Right on to the cover of the Maariv.Watch the damage these idiots do to their Rebbe. What have they accomplished so far here?1) Showed an inability to read the RCA statement.2) Showed an inability to address any of the questions that I've asked them.3) Look at these bozos blaming 2 women for Tendler's problems and attacking them. That's all they can do ... attack women. What a bunch of misogynistic thugs. What they can't comprehend or wrap their little minds around is that the largest Orthodox Rabbinical body in the US kicked out their Rebbe and determined and publicly declared that his conduct was"inappropriate for an Orthodox rabbi".5) Watch the Jewish press....
KNH membership list:knh.orggo to "view membership list" the password is knh613
Why exactly did you produce that list? Most of the people listed have no shayches to the shul, and some never did. They for sure don't pay membership. I'm on there, and I davened at the place once, that is NOT a list of paying members, or daveners!
If you have no sheichus to the shul and are not a financial supporter then why do you not protest your name being on it. Why not insist that they remove it. KNH claims 300 members. Ha, what a joke. If you counted paid members the list would be about a half a page. Maybe 30 names.
>KNH membership list:>>knh.org>go to "view membership list" the >password is knh613 Thanks.Do you have the email password?
Obviously I didn't know I was on the list until I saw it
Obviously I didn't know I was on the list until I saw it now
Regarding the e-mail list. You can only add your name to it for mailings from KNH, you cannot view the list or send e-mails. Sorry about that.
For those who would like to contact the RCA and let them know what an extraordinary horrendous job they did in handling the Tendler case:Rabbi Basil Herring Executive Vice President Phone: 212-807-7888 x 105 Fax: 212-727-8452 firstname.lastname@example.org
>Regarding the e-mail list. You >can only add your name to it for >mailings from KNH, you cannot >view the list or send e-mails. >Sorry about that. Actually you can view the list. I just need a password.Available at:http://www.knh.org/member_list.htm
The benefits of being in the RCA - by the RCA:http://rabbis.org/documents/Benefits%20of%20the%20RCA.pdfAnd therefore, why Rabbi MT needed to be removed from the organization and why YU will ultimately have no choice but to do the same.
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